CUPPY’S COFFEE: Dale Nabors Divorce Filing

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• Gee, did our money finally run out Natalie? Or are you finally figuring out you are married to a con man, scmhuck, “POS” (that stand’s for piece of sh%$)……or are you scared of going to jail wif yo man……Happy times to you both……

• oh…..I bet he quit buying you Coach purses….yea…..that would be it…….

• actually he was never arrested. Okaloosa County had warrants for his arrest but after being lazy and not letting the Alabama law enforcement serve the warrants, they dropped all the charges.

• There were reports that he was arrested at his kids’ school and led out in handcuffs last November. No?

  http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/cuppys-coffee-dale-natalie-nabors-arrested/

• No love lost from me. The only thing i am grateful for (which is pretty sad) is that i only lost 30k. It is sad that some greedy, crooked, unethical unnamed person took many of us franchisee’s money. I hope he see’s the error of his ways, maybe he hits rock bottom and has some remorse for the thousands he took. I also pray that If he has a revitalized career, he builds it on a principled foundation.

• Both he and Natalie turned themselves in after the last warrants were issued. These were for the charges in AL, not FL.

• So did Natalie get custody of the AAFD award?

• Guess Dale “Believe & Succeed” Nabors needs a new motto, ay?

• “So did Natalie get custody of the AAFD award?”

  Franchising’s version of O.J.’s Heisman Trophy.

• no, she didn’t get custody of the AAFD award, she ran out my money and she sold it on E-Bay……I think some guy came Raw bought it…..

• Personally, I could care less about their marriage breaking up. That’s a different subject. What I would really like to see is the monies being returned to all the investors who had hoped to own a business.

• She could have sold all that inventory they left behind in the FWB offices too. I hope she doesn’t have to sell any of her genuine Coach bags to raise cash. Now that would be tragic!

• Would there be any upside to getting divorced as a way to protect assets (if there are any) in the many lawsuits levelled against Dale? Could this be a tactic? I have no idea how that works.

• oh yes, there are many upsides to getting a divorce, I wouldn’t put anything past Con Man Nabors…..and ole Nat is just as guilty as he is. I certainly believe this is a major tactic happening
  Jutta, there is not a fat chance of any of us getting any money back, that money has been spent or is hidden very well. I think it is hidden, how could Dale and Morg (The Rawman) Morgan live everyday and not work…..they are exisiting on OUR MONEY!!!!!!
  We franchisees that have been scammed, we can never slink away, we need to stay in the light, raising Hell and let these filthy people know we will never go away…….we need to go to Washington and lobby and be heard and try and not let this happen to anyone else, I don’t want anyone to go thru the Hell me and my family have endured…..Legislation needs to be passed and franchise laws need to changed to protect the franchisee…..

• Dale Nabors had nothing to do with the AAFD award. He inherited it from the ‘raw’ guy, who probably wouldn’t want to own the little statue. From day 1, the raw guy actually worked hard every day to build a viable business – Maybe it grew too fast – some things most definately went wrong.

  Dale is an inept fool, who was immobilized from day one of ownership (after raw guy wasn’t there to give him assignments) – every stiff move Dale made – every order he barked seemed dirty and underhanded. Talk-talk-talk – slow and southern with a lot of ponderin’ b-tween – I think he actually thought it might be workin’. It’s really too bad the truth will never come out – after Dale took over, the “raw guy’ kept giving Dale the little bit of $$ he had left at the end to keep the business afloat. Dale took the last of ‘raw guy’s’ limited funds and tanked it anyway.

  Maybe that was his plan all along. Maybe he didn’t know how to keep it going. Raw guy actually drove to Muscle Shoals and upon witnessing the shocking conditions of the 1 room office in the 2 room shanty –and the employees who hadn’t been paid for a month, he gave each of us $20 to get us through until Dale pulled his head out, which never happened. We actually saw raw guy give Dale a little cash after Dale whined about his kid not having money for a school project. At least ‘raw guy’ took care of people while he was there.

  Dale Nabors was a big-talking, wart-faced prick from the second he took over. The whole buy/sell transition smacked of little wart-man’s blackmail tactics. He went in like a banshee and ravaged the business. Literally, when he moved to AL, the offices were left looking like a hurricane hit them – drawers of empty file folders (not too hard to figure out what happened to the paperwork) and boxes full of franchisee files with lots of their personal information – just left in the hands of whoever found it! There were no signs of Wartie’s ‘good intentions’ left in those FWB offices at all – nor anywhere else.

  Some of us actually witnessed these things – as in… we SAW it. This is not just more speculation. Anyone who wants to comment on this situation should be required to take a polygraph test. I’d be first in line.
  Raw guy has his own problems, but consciously stealing from people isn’t one of them. The records show at least $3M missing after Dale took over. $3M divided among the people who were wronged would help some, right? Dale has an empty void where his heart should be. God help him find it. God help us all.

  – Peace out

• The press release for Dale Nabors & FranSynergy’s purchase of Medina, Cuppy’s, Elite etc. is April 22, 2008.

  Are you seriously suggesting that all was in tip-top shape at that time? Are you saying that Robert Bobby Morgan’s Medina Cuppy’s Elite scam machine had not already scammed dozens if not hundreds out of their “refundable” deposits not to mention the equipment from Elite they never received?

  Bobby Morgan was a scam artist back when he got nabbed for insurance fraud. Bobby Morgan was a scam artist when he was taking Java Jo’z deposits and keeping them. And he was certainly the mastermind of the Cuppy’s scam before warty Dale got left holding the bag.

  Cuppy’s franchisees might never get a dime back, but I don’t think they’ll ever give up warning people about raw food Bobby Morgan no matter where he hides or what variation of his name he tries to use, Robert Morgan, Morg Morgan, Rawman Walking, Bobby Morgan, whatever.

• Is this you, Sean? Can anyone else have an opinion. This is not black or white.
  Did I say tip-top condition? no! I said there were problems. All this scuttlebutt is so ridiculous – asinine!
  As far as the refunds: The big problems started with Scoble, who wrote a post-dated check for his deposit and then had the co. hold off cashing it for about 4 months. Then he worked the company to death and was never satisfied. Location after location he blew off. We could do nothing right for the guy.
  The whole big situation with help from the blogging internet, started a mob and people got crushed.

• The company was in trouble and Dale Nabors marked his prey and then he took them out. Everyone knows, he was a blogger like you, Sean. You all take care of your own.
  Tthe raw guy goes way out on a limb in business and he kicks his own butt doing it. Maybe he tries to do too much too fast. He gets way too chummy with his staff and that’s a big problem. He doesn’t seem to be a theif. He does get ahead of himself. A lot of people think he could have fixed it if he’d stayed. I think so too.

• The stock purchase agreement was signed and dated April 18, 2008.

• By December of 2008, raw guy and Brian Hayes had worked tedious hours + paid their own travel expenses to come to some kind of agreement with Dale Nabor’s to have him back away so they could get some building built. Dale would agree and then disappear time after time. I know that raw ad Brian talked to several franchisees to get their building going and Brian actually built some, but Dale never agreed to have any money sent to anyone but him.
  *Raw and Brian are dead broke having spent the last of what they had to salvage what they could. SOme people were taken care of.
  *There is a $3M gap in DN’s books.
  (Both of these facts are recorded in God’s Book)

• …AND… as far as Dale’s slogan, “Believe and Succeed.” ?? Why would he change it now? It worked for him. It’s his mantra! He probably hums it to summon the devil.

• “Is this you, Sean?”
  No, this is me. You know I’m not shy with my identity… or opinion.

  “Everyone knows, he was a blogger like you, Sean. You all take care of your own.”
  You are WAY off there. You will never find me defending Dale Nabors.

  In fact, the first time I came in contact with him was on Blue Mau Mau. He was a blowhard franchise consultant who suddenly began defending Java Jo’z online.. obviously one of a few ya’ll paid off. A poster suddenly anonymously start making personal attacks on those warning about this fiasco, especially me and Paul Steinberg. One slow night Dale was on, then suddenly an anonymous commenter started posting stories that I was a drunk, living out of my car, that I sold them a franchise & cheated them, etc.

  It was funny (kind of) since I never sold franchises, am not a drunk ( I AM from a family of alcohol/drug counselors, though) and, (as I didn’t buy a Cuppy’s) haven’t lost a house yet. It was obvious (to me) that it was Dale and that he was a slimy little weasel who deserved whatever Karma had in store for him.

  I do feel bad about any family (with kids) breaking up but I know that he brought it on himself through arrogance & greed. Plus, he’s no blogger.

  As for Morg: You are clearly in denial. Look at his track record. When 4 companies of his in a row end up in scam allegations and lawsuits, you can’t say it’s coincidence.

  BUT I admit that I don’t get Morg. I do think he believed his own fantasy. His Rawman story certainly showed self-delusion. But does that really matter to those who trusted him and whose money he took?

  If you ever want to change my mind off-line, email me at unhappyfranchisee[at]gmail.com. I’ll keep an open mind.

• Roy Snowden is back in court, this time as a plaintiff.

  SNOWDEN et al v. JOHNSON & JOHNSON et al
  Plaintiffs: ROY P. SNOWDEN and KIMBERLY M. SNOWDEN
  Defendants: JOHNSON & JOHNSON, ORTHO-MCNEIL PHARMACEUTICAL, INC. and JOHNSON & JOHNSON PHARMACEUTICAL RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, LLC

  Case Number: 3:2010cv03510
  Filed: July 8, 2010

  Court: New Jersey District Court
  Office: Trenton Office [ Court Info ]
  County: Middlesex
  Presiding Judge: Joel A. Pisano
  Referring Judge: Tonianne J. Bongiovanni

  Nature of Suit: Torts – Injury – Personal Injury- Product Liability
  Cause: 28:1332
  Jurisdiction: Diversity
  Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff

  Roy was actually the Grandaddy of the Cuppy’s debacle, as he was the founder of predecessor Java Jo’z.
  Roy Snowden’s house is now valued by Zillow at $847,000, a drop of $1.5M from the asking price 2 years earlier. Actually, Zillow put the value at $1.5M 2 yrs ago.

  http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2026-Pritchard-Point-Dr-Navarre-FL-32566/47893855_zpid/

  Roy Snowden is still a guest at Club Fed in Orlando and will be until 10-22-10 for tax fraud.

  ROY P SNOWDEN
  57-White-M
  06456-017
  ORLANDO CCM

• Admin, what’s interesting, is the fact that Kim Snowden is a plaintiff claiming ‘Loss of Consortium’.

  Reading the complaint, makes me wonder if the attorney that filed the lawsuit knows that Roy is in prison. It says he started taking a certain medication in Dec 2007 (I think he was in jail at that time). But the complaint states:

  ‘…Kimberly M Snowden has been deprived of the benefits of their marriage including her husband’s love, affection, societ, and consortium, financial support and other hubandly duties and action’

  I’m pretty sure that being in prison it’s hard for him to financial support her.

  ‘…Kimberly Snowden also suffered the loss of her husband’s daily and regular contribution to the household duties and services, which each once did provide to the household as wife and husband’.

  Again, how can the effects of the medication effect his household duties when he is in prison.

  Maybe an attorney could add something to this.

• I will try to get the pleadings and look at, but jd, I think that these are standard form pleadings. Even while in jail, people are entitled to conjugal visits.

• Entitled to conjugal visits? I’m not writing from experience but I don’t think that is an entitlement in federal prison.

• @Guest,

  You are absolutely right and I was wrong:

  http://motherjones.com/politics/2008/07/how-get-conjugal-visit

• Still scamming! Just when I thought the world was heading off in a new direction, I see things are just the way they always were.

• My God… just when you think this saga couldn’t get anymore bizarre…

  JD: can you give the quick 411 of the case? Was this about a medication Roy or Kim were taking? Or did Roy drop some J&J soap?

  “Chutzpah” used to be defined as a boy killing his parents then pleading for mercy because he’s an orphan. The Snowden’s may just prompt an additional definition. Something about not being allowed to screw people (over). Webster?

  For those who don’t know their pre-Cuppy’s history, Roy & Kim Snowden (allegedly) made a lot of money running one those (allegedly) insidious door-to-door magazine sale rings where they (allegedly) drive disaffected teens and runaways to distant cities and (allegedly) to sell door-to-door. Roy went to jail for tax fraud & not reporting income/assets gained from that World Media International Inc.

  Snowden’s Java Jo’z licensing (alleged) scam gave Robert “Morg” Morgan both the template and foundation for the Cuppy’s operation. Morgan converted Java Jo’z to Cuppy’s when RoyBoy went to Club Fed.

• Admin: I’m not well versed on it, but it seems like he was given medication that could have harmful side effects related to it, but was approved by the FDA. Seems like they are claiming that the defendant didn’t disclose all of their research.

  I could be wrong, so I’ll defer to Michael who has experience reading pleadings.

• In Reponce to all the comments on this matter , firstly i like to inform you all that Dale and Roy go way back, to the magizine buisness. I am assuming this law suit is another devised plan to come up w/ some $$ seeing for over 30 years Roy has been making money off others and I am sure there is no $$ coming in. The fact that upon going into Prison Roy had repaid nearly $900,000.00 dollars back to the IRS is a concern to me …where did he get that kinda money. However I digress, unfortunatly Roy and Kim confirm to us over and over again the kind of people they are. You may all want to look into a Mr. James Anderson who was also a mangaer for Roy in the Days of World Media International. He was very loyal to Roy and followed him on to Java Jo’s. I believe he also went on to Cuppy’s. He also was paid in cash only. I as a former magazine sale person (swindler) for Roy and James no there are so many more that should have been prosicuted or investigated for tax fraud. I pulled my credit report from that time and realized my taxes were over reported and had a tax lien which prevented me from buying my first house for a while. Hopefully w/ the power of the internet Roy will NEVER be able to do buisness or swindle anyone out of any more money.

• Found this posting by Admin from lamost two years ago, still rings true today because it is the truth:

  The company was NOT better under Morg Morgan, it just FELT like it was because Morg is a professional, polished and highly skilled illusionist. Folks, there WAS no great company, not even a viable company. You were not being paid and your day care was not being supported by people’s purchases of cups of coffee – like a legitimate company. Your paychecks and daycare was being paid by people who were deceived into wiring the company their life savings to those who knew exactly what they were doing.

  Next time you’re tempted to say “At least when Morg was running things…” remember that when Morg was running things millions of dollars of people’s life savings were being sucked out of their accounts and their dreams were being dashed to make his Jaguar, Harley and condo payments, as well as your paycheck to keep the illusion going.

• B. Hoo:

  Dale Nabors was a colleague/employee of Roy Snowden back before Java Jo’z? I have never heard that before. I received an email stating that Dale actually ran one of the magazine crews for Snowden at World Media International Inc.

  I always assumed Dale Nabors was a semi-legit franchise consultant/broker who first learned about Java Jo’z and Cuppy’s in the blog debates. I knew he ran telemarketing for the Dwyer Group (Roto-rooter, etc.) before his FranSynergy business. Interesting.

  Anyone else have knowledge of how Dale first got involved or whether he was involved in previous (allegedly) shady dealings?

• B. Hoo:

  You are so full of it. Get back under the rock.

• Ahhhh I only come out of the rock, when I have more confirmation of his “Great charactor”

• What? You make no sense. You are weird. Trying to have a conversation with you is kind of like trying to swat a buzzing fly. You make up stupid stuff about people. And there is no such word as “firstly.”
  Try to understand – You ARE out from under the rock. I said, “Get back under…” Oh never mind.

• Thanks for correcting my gramatical mistakes, nice to know we have a scholar such as your self policing the spelling mistakes of others high five! Too bad you couldn’t have your vast knowledge to help your budy Roy! High five! Get a bunch!

• “Firstly” is a word. Perhaps not correctly used here but it’s a word.

  More important, what’s the deal behind the Dale/Roy connection?

• def. first·ly (fûrstl) adv. In the first place; to begin with.
  example: firstly, morg morgan took millions of dollars. secondly, dale nabors took what was left. thirdly, tey got what was coming to them.

• Guest, you are WAY incorrect on your thirdly example! Those 2 crooks haven’t even begun to get what’s coming to them.

• B. Hoo/Guest:

  I concede; you are a genius. Now it’s time to either substantiate your allegations or stop making them.

• fred, meet B. Hoo/Guest. The 2 of you should be very happy together.

• Dale Nabors does have at least one fan. On the Dale Nabors – Fraud Topix thread – where Dale’s Muscle Shoals neighbors occasionally post Dale sightings – “Curious” writes that Dale’s a great person who gave his life to god:

  I think Dale is a great person! Everyone has fallen a time or two in their life, including myself! We are NOT Perfect! Yes he messed up, who don’t?….God is a forgiving God, & if he can personally forgive Dale, than who are we not to? Does not mean you have to forget what happen, but “forgiveness” is a command, NOT an option from God!! How dare you put their innocent children’s school on here! They have NOTHING to do with it!! So what he picks up his children daily, don’t you too pick up your kids?! This man has gave his life to God, so I strongly suggest you LEAVE him alone!! Have a Blessed day.

• ADMIN: I know, I read that last night…….got a good laugh from it!!!!!!!

• There’s probably no one alive who doesn’t have at least one person who loves them – everybody’s somebody’s baby or daddy or mommy.

  I’ve been on the receiving end of Dale’s brutality, too. AND I sure do hope that he has given his life to the Lord.

  Alicia (and others) – So many of you say that you just want to get Dale off the streets so that he can’t keep hurting people. If that’s how you all feel, then you might want to pray that he did (or will) give his life to God… Mission accomplished, right? Right! Otherwise we just all cycle through as the victims who became the victimizers.

• a couple of rip-off artist lie and steal til they cant get away with it anymore. Then they get religion and want sympathy, a pat on the back and a free pass. How original! Hopefully Morg and Dale they can start a prison ministry together… from the inside.

• wow, “gimme an break,” we are in receipt of your personal prayer request.

• To……… “Does it really matter who?”

  Go fuck yourself.

• Hmm, I seem to recall more than one person at JJ/Cuppy’s/Elite who called themself a Christian. The G word is so easy to throw around.

• “This man has gave his life to God…”

  I thanked Mr. Nabors for his generous offer, but explained that I must politely decline at this time.