STRATUS Lawsuit Alleges Janitorial Franchise Fraud
Stratus Building Solutions franchisees in Indiana have filed a Class Action Complaint and Jury Demand against Stratus master franchisee Shamrock Building Services, Inc., Kevin Spellacy, Jerry Wenger, and Pamella Martins,and Stratus Building Solutions franchisor Stratus Franchising, L.L.C..
The case was filed June 8, 2012 in Marion Superior Court on behalf of the defendants by Paul B. Overhauser, attorney, and Kathrine Jack, of Counsel, of the law firm of Overhauser Law Offices:
Read the full complaint here:
Nidia Martinez, et. al. v. Shamrock Building Services, Inc., Stratus Franchising, L.L.C., Kevin Spellacy, Jerry Wenger, and Pamella Martins
Nidia Martinez, Maria Manriquez, Elsa De La Cruz, Eni Cruz Rodriquez, Victor Garcia, Laura Andolon, Ronny Funes, Theresa Escobedo, Lorenzo Rodriguez, Faustina Negrete, Yolanda Alvarez, Jose Leon, on behalf of themselves and others similarly situated,
Plaintiffs,
vs.
Shamrock Building Services, Inc., Stratus Franchising, L.L.C., Kevin Spellacy, Jerry Wenger, and Pamella Martins,
Defendants.
Indiana Franchisees Allege Stratus Master Franchise Scam
According to the franchise complaint:
“This case involves unscrupulous Defendants who ignore these laws, and instead oppress hundreds of American workers just to make themselves richer.
“Their unscrupulous strategy is to label their workers ‘franchisees,’ and have them sign a ‘franchise agreement.’
“Using the misguided and illegal strategy, they have evaded the consumer and worker protection laws that form the foundation of American society. Instead, they pay their workers a fraction of the minimum wage, make illegal deductions from payments to their workers, and evade taxes owed to the Indiana and Federal governments.”
The complaint alleges that the franchise system used by Stratus Building Solutions and its master franchisee Kevin Spellacy is essentially a scam that promotes an oppressive and illegal scam that defrauds would-be business owners out of their life savings. The lawsuit contends:
“Defendant Stratus is a janitorial services company that contracts with owners of commercial buildings to clean offices, schools and medical clinics. Because janitorial work is often an unattractive occupation, Stratus needs to offer incentives to prospective workers.
“Unlike legitimate businesses, who would simply offer a higher wage to attract workers for an undesirable job, Stratus uses a different scheme. It offers prospective workers a ‘guaranteed business’ and ‘guaranteed financing’ and the prospect of making thousands of dollars.
“To make matters worse, when hiring cleaning workers, Stratus makes them first pay a ‘franchise fee’ to purchase a ‘franchise.’ These ‘franchise fees’ often represent a worker’s entire life savings; yet they get nothing in return, other than the right to be subjected to further exploitation by Defendant’s illegal scheme.”
Read more here: Janitorial / Commercial Cleaning Franchise Issues
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Guest: I really believed that was a win/win for you as well! I mean just being in my general space/area should be enough to warrant what is proposed.
Now in regards to the “law”, I am sure that you didn’t mean to imply that Overhauser/Jack/Plaintiffs should get special treatment, that the laws are somehow different for them than for someone such as me/Shamrock/Stratus, correct? I mean in my last depostion, I was under oath, I had to answer residency and citizenship questions, as well as every question posed to me under the penalty of perjury. Surely (Yes, I did call you Shirley!) you cannot mean that Plaintiffs have special rights, special authorities, special rules in a court of law?
You are correct, that if it hadn’t been for the lies, false statements, meaningless guarantees that Mz. Jack’s “partner” bestowed upon the Plaintiffs, I am sure that they wouldn’t have been party to this bogus lawsuit…..Many a Plaintiff in a Wal-Mart slip/fall has gone by the wayside before, many will follow. There is a real reason that ambulance chasers equal attorney’s. However, Overhauser/Jack have taken that to a new level for sure.
I honestly feel sorry for the majority of the Plaintiffs and would be happy to assist them anyway possible when they find another attorney and sue Overhauser/Jack for Malpractice.
Let me know about the bet, I may be willing to take you to a nice restaurant in St.Louis vs. simply purchasing you a tea and sitting in your car and sharing a moment of clarity and honesty with you!
@Viewers: “BRO” has confirmed that nearly none of the Plaintiffs listed in the bogus lawsuit filed on their behalf, by Overhauser/Jack are willing to give Depositions and/or testify. Now, what does that say about not only the attorney’s involved in this case, but the Plaintiffs? I mean, here you say literally anything you want, not forced to back it up prior to filing the lawsuit, then when you cannot get a “technical default” you are unwilling to “put your name on it” by simply adhering to the rules that everyone else has to play by. Now of course, Overhauser/Jack will state that they had NO IDEA that Plaintiffs were unwilling to subject themselves to simple depositions, but it does make one wonder why they were wanting/working so hard to get a technical default, doesn’t it?
So, in a nutshell, we have a “cut/pasted case”, filed by a patent attorney and woman’s issue attorney, on behalf of Plaintiff’s that were at best misled and at worst coerced into being party to this lawsuit, sold by a “mystery person” that has ties directly to Mz. Jack that knows/understands Spanish w/o slang words, making false/impeachable statements and unwilling to back those statements up by being party too a simple deposition……Throw in a former disgruntled/poor performing employee that has told numerous lies, breached his employment contract, posted lies on this site, contacted Stratus customers, contacted Stratus owner-operators, made knowingly false statements and now wants to be friends again and doesn’t want to be sued (too late for that), you have a cast of liars, clowns and attorneys that should know better!
And Yet, this disgusting/bogus/lie filled/sham of a lawsuit continues……Now viewers, the question posed to you, this is exactly what happens when you refuse to fight non-sense such as this lawsuit, once we win, we will be able to dance a little, be able to show people that we were right and the accusations made against us were so false, that Plaintiffs were unwilling to even show up for basic depostions, that attorneys were so unethical in the filing and handling of this case that they gave ambulence chasing personal injury attorneys a bad name!
@Viewers: Late Breaking News!
“BRO” has learned some interesting things over the last day or so in regards to the Plaintiffs/attorneys……As depositions are being scheduled, as lawsuit is being prepared against Bob P., aka Lies be told, tell the truth, anonymous Indy/Rex, there is more information coming that at least one of the Defendents will be filing a countersuit against all Plaintiffs regardless of outcome as he has been described as a “walking liability”…..
“BRO” has also uncovered that many of the Plaintiffs did not report their earnings generated from Shamrock/Stratus, in at least one case for a period of three (3) Years! Some of the Plaintiffs filed NO tax returns at all!
“BRO” has also uncovered that in at least one case, there appears to be an issue with the assigned ITIN number not matching actual Plaintiff?
Doesn’t it make you wonder that if Plaintiffs didn’t file tax returns, didn’t report income properly, may have committed fraud in regards to ITIN documentation, what else they may have lied about? It should also make you wonder about Overhauser/Jack what they did know, what they didn’t know, what they did ask, what they didn’t ask and the reasons why?
Interesting revelations for sure………More investigations and results sooner than later!
Lawsuit against me for breach? I was discharged ILLEGALLY , according to the State of Indiana. Unemployment also found no fault with me when challenged by Stratus. Go ahead. Have at it. The only lies on here are being told by Jerry W. aka Hefty Bag. It’s such a shame. Friends? I recently had a text from Mr. Wenger directing me to contact the owner of Stratus Indy, that he may be willing to give me a job back. Why in the world would I do that at this point? I seem to be getting the blame for everything, I guess when you don’t accept responsibility for your own screw ups, you have to find someone else to blame it on.
By the way, in the state of Indiana, Illegal Discharge would result in a double the amount of money owed, and attorney fees paid by the company.
Hefty writes “…as lawsuit is being prepared against Bob P…”
Please send a copy of this lawsuit to the site admin so it can be posted. When will it be done? You don’t know? You can’t say for sure? Can you say who’s drafting it?
What’s that you say, Hefty? Oh, you just made that up as a bullying and intimidation tactic? Wow. Great that you admitted that, you honorable vet, you. For a second I thought maybe we’d have to start doubting your credibility!
@Guest: I so love it when you challenge/question me in an open forum, I get this warm feeling that goes all the way down my leg. It’s like when Chris Matthews first met Barrack Obama, it’s like when Overhauser thinks he can go through lunch without the bulkiness of his depends and OOPS! realizes there’s a puddle on the floor…….
I’m sure you spoke with your dear/close friends at the extremely LARGE Overhauser/Jack Law Firm today, hope all is well with them, would you like to report back on their behalf to all the @Viewers and see what joys, what gems, what items they are working on in regards to the Plaintiffs?
@Bob P: Don’t know why you keep thinking I’m Jerry, but my guess is Jerry was just funnin with you a little bit in regards to getting your old job back. Just a guess! Or who knows, maybe he decided to take your bong, light it and take a hit or two for himself?
@Viewers: Let’s just let good ole, Bob, aka Merle, aka Lies be told, aka Tell the Lie, aka Anonymous Rex/Indy just report back to us within the next few weeks, I’ll say a good guess will be around the 10th or so of December about whether or not he got sued….Fair Enough?
I hope all but the Plaintiffs, Overhauser/Jack and the MPD Bob P. have a GREAT and wonderful Thanksgiving Holiday…..
Hefty Windbag / Bill Falkner writes: “@Guest: I so love it when you challenge/question me in an open forum”
Perhaps you should respond/answer when I challenge/question you in an open forum.
Do you have any basis for your statement that a lawsuit is being prepared against Bob P. or do you just make things up as part of your lame bullying/intimidation tactics?
As you supposedly have a HS diploma and an impressive Associates degree from some college I’ve never heard of (as I don’t smoke, I don’t read a lot of matchbook covers) and your grasp of the law is obviously superior to those who wasted their time going to actual law schools, passing the bar, and practicing law, you are no doubt aware of the legal term for making up negative things about people and stating them as fact.
For those who don’t share Hefty Bag / Bill Falkner’s impressive education and legal credentials, that term is “libel.” I’m sure Mr. Falkner is making sure that everything he has stated as fact here he can substatiate as fact. Otherwise, Ms. Jack and Mr. Overhauser may have the pleasure of dragging Hefty Windbag into court for a defamation case.
I’m sure they would try the case “pro bono” (a Latin term meaning “for the fun of it”).
And I’m sure that Stratus will gladly pick up his legal bill in return for his devoted service and defending its honor here with his witty and erudite defense of this arguably criminal enterprise.
@Guest: Oh how I love the smell of FEAR! It’s almost like in that movie Platoon where Richard Duval (shirtless) walks onto the beach and declares “I love the smell of Napalm in the morning”! That’s what I smell coming from you, Overhauser/Jack, Plaintiffs and Bob P. I mean how stupid do you think I am? (can hardly wait to see what he posts after that open ended question) I mean even a simpleton like me knows that in order for something to be “libel” that what is being said must be a HUGE LIE!
Problem for Plaintiffs all along, have been the lies, the false allegations, the impeachable statements that THEY (through the translator/Mz. Jack’s Partner/doesn’t know SLANG words in Spanish) made all throughout their BOGUS/SHAM/Lie Filled LAWSUIT. Now, it is also amazing for someone as supposidly smart/educated/upper crest that you pretend to be in your old, run down, beater of a Mercedes, that when someone AGREES with you and your friends (Overhauser/Jack) false statements, well the are Heros, they are protecting their legal rights, they have the 1st Amendment (no no that one, the real one) for protection. Yet, those that disagree with you, have a differing point, are simply spouting facts upon facts, offering real items of discussion, well they are threatened, they are called names, they are simply desired to be SILENCED!
So, since I don’t scare too easy, since I like seeing you Sweat, since I like seeing Overhauser shake, since I like watching Mz. Jack frumple, since I like listening to Bob P. with his MPD justify the stupidity by which he lives each day in, I guess its time for some PREDICTIONS……..
a) As the Plaintiffs are busily running off the sinking ship known as this Bogus/Sham/Cut and Pasted Lawsuit, they will NEVER show up for depositions, they will never fill out/answer their interrogatories, they will never bring the documents requested in the Supeona Duces Tecum. They will simply attempt to fade into the darkness and hope/pray that Defendents decide not to pursue them legally.
b) As the Plaintiffs confirm their unwillingness/inability to continue the pursuit of this Bogus/Sham/Cut and Pasted Lawsuit, Overhauser/Jack are left with no other option than to remove themselves and withdraw this suit from the court and again hope/pray that Defendents decide to leave them alone and not ask for Sanctions, make additonal mockery statements against them and find out/confirm the identity of the person that did the translating and communication/solicitation of the Plaintiffs in the first place.
c) Overhauser will remove Mz. Jack from his Law Firm.
d) Overhauser will stick to the area of the Law that he knows best, Paper Pushing.
e) You (Guest), will simply crawl back into that little hole from which you came and hope that you don’t have to face me again in the Blogosphere!
f) Bob P. w/ MPD will be sued, if for no other reason than to remember that no one likes him.
Let’s see how many of the above Predictions are correct, it won’t take long, many have already begun coming true……
Hefty Bill Falkner writes: “…like in that movie Platoon where Richard Duval (shirtless) walks onto the beach and declares “I love the smell of Napalm in the morning…”
Some people seem determined to elevate being continuously and publicly wrong to an art form.
In this area, Hefty Bill Falkner is Michaelangelo.
The movie is “Apocalypse Now,” not “Platoon.”
And the term is “upper crust,” not “upper crest.”
I believe the correspondence school that issued your Associates degree owes you a refund.
Thanks for the comic relief.
PS It’s “ROBERT Duvall” not “RICHARD Duvall.”
@Guest: Just like you, Overhauser/Jack and MPD Bob P., always look at the smallest aspect of the post and focus on the non-sense. However, I am a BIG man and will fully admit you are correct, it is Bob Duval and it was Apocalypse Now…..
However, I noticed that you didn’t disregard anything else that was stated, as you know that it is true and even the “wacked out” Bob P. can see thru the smoke/mirrors of Plaintiffs/Overhauser/Jack’s case.
Hope all is well in St. Louis!
Hefty Bill Falkner writes: “Hope all is well in St. Louis!”
Such a talent for being consistently and publicly wrong. Every circus needs a clown. Stratus has a good one with Hefty Bill Falkner or Hefty Jerry Wenger or whichever you are.
I’m sure Overhauser, Jack and all those they represent feel much better about their case each time Hefty Windbag releases more flatulent hot air.
This week, let’s all give thanks that these janitorial con artists aren’t any smarter or better educated than they are.
Hey Hefty, I don’t know if anyone has mentioned it, but if Bob P sues you for breach, he can get more than double reparations; he can get back pay to the date of termination, pain and suffering due to being wrongfully discharged, and YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY HIS ATTORNEY FEES. We haven’t covered defamation, or slander that your dumb _____ keeps posting here. Are your attorneys that stupid? We see that you are.
@Guest Too: Unfortunately for MPD riddled Bob P. he was warned about his performance in writing, cussed out two seperate customers and simply stunk up the place as far as sales went, not to mention his legal/criminal problems, I like our chances of winning a breach of contract suit better than his.
Now as far as your “defamation” in order to defame someone, you must be lying about them in total. That is simply a scare tactic brought up by supposidly “know it all” outsiders to the legal system. “defamation suit” brought by Plaintiffs? Really! I would love to see that happen, just another reason that Overhauser/Jack would be proven as un-professional in their supposed craft….
In regards to Slander, sorry that doesn’t work either, this is in writing and for another, it happens to be true.
@Guest: Yes, I do have alot of Gas from time to time, most especially when I eat Mexican and for some reason, Italian foods. It must be the onions or tomato’s. Actually, come to think of it, I am probably going to be sued by the EPA and/or Al Gore and/or Current TV because I am to blame for Global Warming! That is much more likely than being sued by the Plaintiffs or really the Cowards known as Overhauser/Jack for defamation/slander as proposed earlier.
All we are waiting on now, is for MPD Bob P. to weigh in and state for the record that he didn’t deserve to get fired by Stratus or Office Pride nor any of the other jobs that he has held for the last decade or so and that he is still “Superman” in his own eyes!
A punk always has to try to belittle someone else to make himself feel better. I don’t have to blackmail business owners to keep them out of a lawsuit, by threatening to pull their franchise, if they talk to the “wrong” person, or to drop trying to get WHAT IS ALREADY OWED TO THEM. Calling people names like delusional, or saying they are jeopardizing your defense of a lawsuit. You (Hefty Bag aka Jerry Wenger) have no idea what you are talking about. I scare you, and justifiably so. So you can continue to call names, continue to bully, continue to use nasty underhanded tactics to try and scare off the people who may be easily frightened, but I am not. You have no idea of the resources at my disposal or the people I know. Tit for tat if you want, but I will get the last laugh. Are you manufacturing fake paperwork now too? Wouldn’t surprise me. I am in the light. When the light hits the rats, they scatter. Step right up.
@ Bob P. So you “might be delusional” if the following:
a) Think you are “Superman”
b) Think you are “the light”
c) Think you are smarter than a Redneck
d) Think you are protected by Lies
e) Think you have multiple personality disorder
f) Think if you really know Merle Haggard
g) Think if you and Willie Nelson share a Bong on a regular basis
h) Think if anyone will put you on the stand in a legal proceeding
i) Think you are smarter/sexier/studlier than Hefty Bag!
@ Bob P. You are a washed up joke of a man, you are too stupid to realize that any “harm” that you have done or think you can do, would simply cause the owner-operators the vast majority of harm you moron! Owner-Operators get 80% of all billable dollars, so let me break it down for you, you screw them out of a 1k per month account, or 2500 month account like your attorney’s did thanks to George’s alliance with Overhauser, it cost the owner-operator $1900.00 per month in lost revenue. for the 1k job, they lose $800.00 in revenue.
@ Bill F.- Well, you nailed it on the head, Bob P. with his MPD is most definitely delusional on all levels. Wish you hadn’t called me “sexy”, it makes me a little uncomfortable!
@ Viewers: Overhauser/Jack are watching their case implode! Obviously, they are attempting to blame yours truly for this issue, which I guess technically is true, problem is they lied (Plaintiffs and Overhauser/Jack) they got called out in a public forum that they attempted to exploit by posting this sham/bogus/lie filled lawsuit on multiple blog sites. Look for the case to simply go away within the next few weeks. It will be because of “something else”, but at the end of the day, it was due to the impeachment of the Plaintiffs, the lies in the Allegations, their mis-handling and mis-representation of this case from Day One!
Bob P.:
I think you are probably correct about Hefty Bag being Jerry Wenger, a defendant in this lawsuit. By the desperation in his writing, the name-calling, its clear he’s a scared defendant who is taking a pummeling and his dirty laundry is being displayed for all to see. Plus, I always doubted that this cowardly poser would disclose his real name. No way.
If I had made my living secretly taking advantage of honest, hardworking people, like he allegedly does, and the rock I operated under was suddenly lifted, exposing me and my misdeeds to the light of day, I guess I’d be pretty desperate too.
If I were going through into the holidays as a defendant in a lawsuit, with all my dirty little secrets being transcribed, printed out, distributed and discussed, I might even lash out anonymously online to try to reduce my stress. Who knows?
Hefty Jerry Windbag:
That Karma be some nasty stuff.
Hefty Jerry Windbag writes “…so let me break it down for you, you screw them out of…” Well, yes, that’s a subject you know well…
Hefty Jerry Windbag writes: “Look for the case to simply go away within the next few weeks.”
Right. In a few weeks we’ll look to add this to your amazing lists of things you were loudly and publicly wrong about. Tell yourself that if it makes you feel better. Stress is a killer, and you are showing signs of splitting at the seams.
Don’t choke on your turkey this week, Hefty Jerry Windbag. You should be healthy and clearheaded for all the fun to come. Try not to think of all the families that will be giving thanks that they will finally get their day in court, and that the predators are being dragged out into the light of day.
Jerry W is already in trouble and doesn’t even know the depth it goes. Lying on a deposition is a chargeable offense. There is no doubt that Stratus does not have the case they thought, or they would have just kept it under wraps until the court room appearance. Changing the name to Service Cube does not give them reproof. The reputation goes on regardless of the name change.
Don’t be surprised to see all this trash talk in a VERY PUBLIC display soon, and associated with Stratus, now taking advantage as Service Cube.
The bottom line is, attacking Mr. P for all their troubles only shows the lack of power they actually have. I have seen no evidences of any lawsuits filed by Mr. P, but if he is smart, he could bring on a HUGE one for all the personal attacks and slanders here alone.
It’s a weak man who hides behind an anonymous name and blog horrible things about people. It is not professional, is in bad taste, and shows a lack of real character. It seems Hefty can’t let anything go either, he has to get the last word. Very familiar I understand, as a trait of Mr. Wenger.
The real truth is coming, and will come out. There will be no refrigerator for the roaches to flee under when the light is turned on.
@ Guest and Guest Too: I’m sorry, are viewers supposed to be stupid enough to believe that those happen to be your “real” names? I mean come on, other than Bob P., Overhauser/Jack, who else is supposed to believe that garbage you happen to be spewing.
Last time I looked, I am the only person planting their real first and last name on the line!
Let us all have a GREAT THANKSGIVING! Please remember those warriors fighting overseas for us and their famililes that are sacraficing numerous ways to support them and their endeavors!
@ Guest and Guest Too: I don’t know how Jerry Wenger or Jerry W. sleep, but you might want to ask them. I sleep just fine. I wonder really how the Plaintiffs and Overhauser/Jack sleep? More on that later. Bob P. “the light that walks among us” can’t sleep well, I mean simply look at his miserable life, two ex-wives, one with cancer, no friends to give him a job, two step sons with felony convictions, himself with recent jail time and yet, through it all, he is a better man than anyone else, as he is in the “light”. No offense, if he is in the “light” or is the “light”, I’m glad for myself , my family and my friends that I’m not!
Plaintiffs, you are simply disgusting human beings, you are liars, you are cheats, you are thieves and you will lose without question. It is amazing to me the arrogance of the Plaintiffs, how they think they are more important than anyone else, how they believe they should chose the course and direction of others, how they can honestly continue this sham/bogus/lie filled lawsuit and even think about having Thanksgiving Dinner with their families. They have caused harm/damage to at least 50 owner-operators that chose NOT to be party to this sham of a lawsuit. 50 owner-operators that invested equal too or in most cases much greater than monies than they did, 50 owner-operators that seized the opportunity that they chose not to because they were lazy, because they weren’t willing to put the effort, because they wanted to be/try to be the next Wal-Mart slip and fall victim.
Soon, there will be meetings taking place with all 50 owner-operators that chose NOT to join this lawsuit, the HARM that these 9 have done, the HARM that Overhauser/Jack have done, the HARM that Bob P. have done, will be fully revealed to them and the mode by which they can get back at them. How is it fair that 50 owner-operators and their families get to be HARMED by 9 lazy, good for nothing, lying, sacks of crap? How is it fair that an ambulance chasing, pond scumming, egg sucking, immoral and unethical officer of the court (supposidly) Overhauser/Jack are allowed to HARM so many? How is it fair that a low-life, terrible performer, out of work, terminated for cause former employee is allowed to HARM so many?
You ask yourself the above listed questions, you look at yourselves in the mirror, you have no courage, you have no morals, you have no integrity, how do you sleep at night?
Soon, there will be a new character added to the list of characters in this blog line, for now, I will simply describe him as a Sumo Wrestler……This person will be on the scene in a matter of days, he will tear this case to the very core! Here’s a hint, he’s not an attorney?
@ Bill Falkner: Sorry, I didn’t read your posting till now, I too wish our BRAVE Men and Women of the armed forces that currently serve, those like you that served in the past and ALL of their families a Much HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!!!! These people are True Heros and deserve our Praise and our RESPECT!
@ Guest and Guest Too: Your postings clearly show that you are not business people, you are simply cowards just like Overhauser/Jack. They get to manipulate the system, they get to harm innocent people under the “shield” of the court system, they get to decide like the Union with less than 800 members the fate of over 18,000 and their families, their suppliers, their vendors, their management, their ownership? If Overhauser/Jack think they have something on Jerry Wenger, Jerry W. or whomever, then they need to bring it! They need to quit being cowards and hiding behind Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G., Plaintiffs, Guest and Guest Too.
@ Viewers: Here’s the real story of HARM, in this sham/bogus/lie filled/impeachable case:
1 Individual w/family/responsibilities
2 employees and their families
50 owner-operators, their employees, their families
Dozens of vendors, salespeople, their families
I hope the Plaintiffs, their attorneys, Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G. and a couple of others to be revealed sooner vs. later all have a Great Thanksgiving. If you think what I’ve posted here, the attitude of defiance that I have shown, the passion, has been “relentless” to this point, wait until next week.
Plaintiffs: You are liars, cheats, thieves, cowards
Overhauser/Jack: You are immoral, unethical, spineless, gutless, cowards and good for nothing ambulance chasers.
Bob P.: You only need to look in the mirror, and look at my postings to see the “light” that you really are.
Fred G. and Olivia G.: Your day is coming sooner than later.
Looks like Jerry is unraveling. It is amazing that someone would take so much time trying to paint a picture of a man whom they swear is the lowest form of life walking, and yet, I have not read one thing he has said on here that has been rude, disrespectful or otherwise distasteful. Yet Mr. Bag seems to have an insight into his family, his children and feels like he must ridicule, abuse, and throw crap at CONTINUOUSLY. Someone with this knowledge (information wrong I have been informed) could have only gotten it through personal contact Mr. Wenger, IF it were true.
Hiding? Why are you hiding Mr. Bag, behind Mr. Bag? If you were even half a man you’d at least be honest and say who you really are. YOU ARE THE COWARD. It seems we do have it on good authority you do have some surprises awaiting you on that day in court. We’ll leave that as that. Get a pair Mr. Bag.
You have done nothing on here but show yourself to be a bully, a deceitful coward, a slanderer…a despicable and frightened pathetic excuse of a…can’t say man, a man takes ownership of his words…maybe human. You keep accusing not just Bob P, but a whole slew of people, of ruining the business and harming others, yet IT IS YOU WHO HAS THE LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM. No, if they were doing all this harm, it would seem the tables would be reversed.
One can only imagine how the 50 other franchise folks would react if they knew what really is happening, and the horrible manner in which Stratus aka Service Cube, talked about people behind their backs, or hide in some fake name on a blog talking about other folks like they were dogs, less than human. If this is how they operate, this is who is in charge, why would anyone want to be associated with this kind of dirty, backstabbing organization.
Grind on Mr. Bag. Your day is coming, we’ll all get to see how you react to being not only put in your place, but, see how you like being on the shit end of the legal stick in that day. Normally I would leave this stuff alone, but you mr. Bag are as low life a person as I have ever viewed, writing on a blog. Obviously when backed in a corner you feel it necessary to try to take everyone you can down with you. Funny though, no one seems to buy your crap.
Trying to attach every negative remark on here at you to one person shows also that you are definitely afraid. We will make sure all the legal proceedings and RESULTS get their just due in this blog.
Personally, I don’t think anyone really give a crap what you say Mr. Bag. We have your number.
Guest and Guest Too: I will reveal myself gladly as soon as you reveal yourselves!
Here’s the latest update for all of our viewers, which include Overhauser/Jack, Bob P., Fred G., Olivia G. and two others to be revealed sooner vs. later.
On Monday, there will be some HUGE announcements including more details about the identity and powers of Sumo!
If I were Nydia Martinez, Maria Mannriquez/Jose Matafasio, Yolanda Alvarez/Jose Leon, Lorenzo Rodriquez, Faustina Negrote, Elsa de la Cruz, Victor Garcia/Laura Andalon, Teresa Escobar and Ronny Funez, I think I would all be at Overhausers Office on Monday a.m. and recanting and forcing Overhauser/Jack to remove your names from the lawsuit. Just a piece of friendly advice.
If I were Bob P., Fred G., Olivia G. I think I would move.
If I were Overhauser/Jack, I think I would have Security Guard at my office. Probably should be armed, I’m just saying, you never know what a group of people may do when they find out that they just lost tens of thousands of dollars and it was all due to Lazy, un-caring, liars, cheats and thieves such as the Plaintiffs. Due to a bunch of washed up/has beens/cowards such as Bob P., Fred G. and Olivia G. and to a couple of unethical, careless, ambulance chasing attorneys! The greatest thing about our Hispanic Brothers and Sisters is their Passion not only for life, but for the most part their great work ethic and willingness to work hard to achieve a better life for their children, spouses and family in general. When that Passion is positive, it is fantastic and that is what makes the owner-operator system the best for commercial cleaning performance without question. When that Passion is negative, Oh Boy!
Guess we will all see “who’s buying” and “who’s not” come next week!
@Viewers: I Love Wrestling or in the south, Rasslin…….I view the remaining days of this sham/bogus/lie filled case as a six-man tag team match! In one corner/side you have Sumo, The En Quiebra (lucha libre) and The Amercian Dream, Dusty Rhodes (Me) or my second favorite The Dirtiest Player in the Game, Rick Flair vs. The Ambulance Chasers (Overhauser/Jack) and Merle (Bob P., anonymous Indy, anonymous Rex, Truth be Told, Tell the Truth)
You may ask, Why aren’t the Plaintiffs listed? Because they are done, they aren’t getting one penny, they got their 15 minutes of fame and the 50 Owner-Operators that just got screwed by them will finish their envolvement in this sham/bogus/lie filled case.
There are many ways to “end a case”, sometimes you do it thru the court system, sometimes you do it in the “court of public opinion”, sometimes you do it by smoke/mirrors, sometimes you do it by changing the arena by which the case is fought.
Come Monday, all of the above will finally begin to fall into place. For Guest and Guest Too, here are the final predictions for the major players.
Plaintiffs: Will get nothing, not a single penny, they will cowar and sit in fear, because at least 50 people will not be too happy with them, regardless of their “relationship”.
Overhauser/Jack: Will get nothing, not a single penny, they will cowar and sit in fear, because at least 50 people will not be too happy with them, they will be known throughout the tight community of Greenfield as nothing but Ambulance Chasers, they will be known throughout the legal community as 3rd Rate, 2nd Tier, Un-ethical, Has beens.
Bob P. will get nothing, his 15 minutes of fame are done, he will need to move not only because of the 50 People, but basically he needs a major change of venue because his “light” is so bright, it can’t handle the coming darkness.
Olivia G., Fred G. and two others to be revealed next week, they are done, not only because of the 50 People coming to seek them out, but because I am going to make it my personal goal to make sure that they don’t see the business “light of day” ever again.
So much “Joy, cometh in the morning!”……For the “light” and Overhauser/Jack that is actually in the Bible. Yes, even the Devil can quote scripture when needed!
I have head some mean people in my day, but you take the cake. It is a pathetic human being who threatens other peoples lively hood, insults family, and just generally denigrates everyone he can. Your threats and big talk are absolutely childish. 3 year old emotionally at best. Revenge is the Lords. (That;s in the bible too). Be careful what you threaten.
I hope you get enough balls to reveal yourself you witless coward. That will be a day of days. Bring yourself out where people can really see who you are (by name, we know by character) it will be good to be able to reveal to others that Stratus, aka Service Cube, employs such a nasty and vindictive individual. Any company that employs such a gutless and insensitive individual does not belong in business. (Even just a spokes person who is a representative of Stratus) Hope fully the message will get out to all the right people to damage, and remove from business this nasty, deceitful company. It doesn’t matter who is good or not in this com[any, this one man is a reflection of the whole body. Corporate, local, and associates. Guilty, all by association.
@ Guest Too: I read an article that an attorney proudly placed on his blog, that attorney’s name is Jonathan Fortman. Possibly you should read the article sometime, it talks about how he and a well placed employee of Stratus Franchising brought down the entire company by utilizing social media such as this. Figured if it worked for him/well placed employee of Stratus Franchising, why not others? Funny isn’t it, when one side uses social media for its purposes, it is considered “leveling of the playing field”. when another side uses it, it is “mean spirited”, “threatening”, “disgusting”, “lie filled” etc…etc….etc…
Obviously, the truth is threatening, disgusting, disturbing, maddening, drive you to drinking, drive you to smoking a bong, drive you to insanity, drive you to cussing out customers, drive you to doing harm to innocent people, drive you to the “light”….Ooops, the last six or so comments were directed towards Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G. just got carried away.
Next week should be alot of fun, I would love to be a fly on the wall in the LARGE Overhauser Law Firm! Stating that fact, Bob P. , Olivia G., Fred G. do you all need help moving?
@ Guest Too, Viewers, Bob P. and others: Soon the true power of Sumo will be revealed, it will only take a couple of days or less for his immense powers to overtake this sham/bogus/lie filled case and send it into another realm! Very soon, all 50 owner-operators will be told the truth, they will be given documents that are currently part of the public record of this lawsuit, they will be given a copy of the lawsuit, they will be given the Plaintiffs information, Bob P.’s information, Overhauser/Jack’s information as it is all part of the public record now.
The real power has always set with the 50 owner-operators who have basically been harmed by the careless and irresponsible acts of the Plaintiffs, Overhauser/Jack, Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G. and two others to be revealed sooner vs. later. They will not only decide the fate of this bogus/sham/lie filled case, but they will control the destiny as they should for the company as a whole, the remaining employees and the valued customers.
It is a shame that supposed “officers of the court” (Overhauser/Jack) and a group of lazy, good for nothing, careless, disgusting, lack of respect for others (Plaintiffs, Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G.) human beings have taken this bogus/lie filled/sham of a lawsuit this far and have hurt so many, but it is “life” and it is to a degree “freedom”.
I will put my faith in the “coming to Jesus meeting” that is about to happen, in Sumo, and ultimately in the truth. Not my truth, Not Overhauser/Jack’s version of the truth, Not the disgusting, ungrateful, lazy, careless, lack fo respect for others Plaintiffs/Bob P./Olivia G./Fred G.’s truth…Just the truth.
This should keep Overhauser/Jack, Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G. and Plaintiffs filled with enough angst for the rest of the weekend. More reports beginning on Tuesday p.m.!
@Viewers/Guest/Guest Too/Bob P.: The second round of meetings happen today with the largest and therefore most at stake owner-operators. The harm that has been done to these people is REAL! Literally 100k that should be rightfully going to them in the next couple of days, simply isn’t there to give. 50 owner-operators, their families, their employee’s have been harmed. These are the 50 vs. the 9 that chose NOT to join this bogus/lie filled/sham of a lawsuit, These are 50 that have REAL Dollars of harm done to them, that HARM lies directly at the feet of Paul Overhauser, Katherine Jack, Plaintiffs, Bob P. and others without a doubt.
At the end of the day, whether the company as a whole survives or not, does not matter financially to me one bit. It doesn’t hurt me, my lifestyle, my family as I did not share in the risk, therefore I got none of the reward. But my heart aches for these 50 and their families, their employee’s and their families, none the less. My heart is very hard and cold when it comes to innocent people and their families getting harmed thru no fault of their own.
Paul Overhauser and Katherine Jack, I hope you have more trouble sleeping the next few days, (Obviously I am) I hope Plaintiffs have a hard time sleeping, Bob P. won’t have a hard time sleeping as he will simply take a “hit” or a pill. Over the long holiday weekend, I spoke with not less than four (4) attorney’s, all with as pretty if not prettier pieces of paper than Mz. Jack and Paul Overhauser, I sent them an email copy of the lawsuit, emailed them a copy of the FDD,gave them an overview of the nearly 600 pages of documentation given to Plaintiffs attorneys (400 plus before subpeona) and allowed them to ask me basic questions. Now granted for the record, NONE were patent attorneys and NONE handled/specialized in Woman’s issues…….But NONE of them would have taken, nor moved forward on this “cause” for a variety of reasons, ONE would have at least contacted the company, asked for documentation to refute the Plaintiffs accusations but based upon the information supplied, would not have moved forward with this cause, even if Plaintffs wanted to pay him in full vs. on contingency. The only reason that I bring this up, it fits with the two other attorneys that contacted us in the past about supposed issues with Jose Leon/Yolanda Alvarez and Ronny Funez respectfully.
Overhauser and Jack are low lifes without a doubt, even while they have been notified of a pending change in the case, even though they have learned that NO insurance policy will be available for them to get paid EVEN IF they win, even though they have learned that financially, even in the best of times, the company in question made less than 40k profit in one year and even though they have been shown nearly 98% of all documents requested, they still move forward with this bogus/lie filled/sham/impeachable lawsuit.
Now they have been notified, soon it will be verified for them, that THEY have caused nearly 100k in REAL HARM to 50 owner-operators, their families, their employees and their families, it is my guess that they will still continue. It is lawyers like them, that give attorneys bad names.
Paul Overhauser and Katherine Jack, Bob P., Plaintiffs Nidia Martinez, Teresa Escobado, Yolanda Alvarez/Jose Leon, Lorenzo Rodriquez, Elsa de la Cruz, Faustina Negrote, Maria Mannriquez/Jose Matafasio, Victor Garcia/Laura Andalon, Ronny Funez the Harm that you have caused 50 innocent people, their families, their employees and their families, simply just doesn’t justify your actions in this matter.
Paul Overhauser and Katherine Jack, you contacted Plaintiffs via phone, you made false promises, you convinced them that they had been harmed, you lied to them (per one of them) about how NO HARM would come to the other owner-operators still in the system, you are supposed to be “officers of the court”, you are supposed to look at all information and decide not only the viability of the case, but the liability of the case before taking and in this cause, proceeding with action. You are supposidly smarter than most, you simply took advantage of others, YOU don’t care about the Plaintiffs, You don’t care about the 50 owner-operators, their families, their employees, their families HARMED by YOU, You only care about your Sham/Lie Filled/Bogus/Impeachable Case and trying to prove yourself Right! Well guess what, you won’t.
@Hefty Bag: My prayers go out to you, the 50 owner-operators, their families, their employees and their families. I hope that they can see through the hurt and anger and realize who is at Fault here!
@ Paul Overhauser, Katherine Jack I pray for you as well to have a change of heart in this matter, from what Hefty Bag has shared with me, you know the truth, what you do with that knowledge is entirely up to you.
Good laughs this morning. Thanks Hefty Bag/Bill Falkner/ Probably Jerry Wenger!
Hefty Bag Probably Jerry Wenger: “Literally 100k that should be rightfully going to them in the next couple of days, simply isn’t there to give. 50 owner-operators, their families, their employee’s have been harmed.”
This is the big blockbuster news that’s going to change everything? Really? That the ridiculously named Service Cube took money rightfully earned by franchisees to use for its legal defense? And Probably Jerry Wenger thinks they are so stupid they’ll blame their fellow victims rather than the thieves? Hard Laugh #1!
Hard Laugh #2 Hefty Bag Probably Jerry Wenger: “My heart is very hard and cold when it comes to innocent people and their families getting harmed …”
Like Mitt Romney, Probably Jerry Wenger accidentally spoke the truth in public. There was no hidden camera in Probably Jerry’s case. He just can’t write and probably doesn’t realize he’s made a fool of himself yet again.
Hard Laugh #3: “Over the long holiday weekend, I spoke with not less than four (4) attorney’s.”
Reminds me of Robert Duvall in Apocalypse Now, but instead of napalm “I love the smell of fear in the morning.” Or, in Probably Jerry Wenger’s case, the smell of fear over the long holiday weekend.
Hard Laugh #4: Probably Jerry Wenger posting both as Hefty Bag and Bill Falkner. Embarrassing. But funny.
Hard Laugh #5: Hefty aka Probably Jerry Wenger: “financially, even in the best of times, the company in question made less than 40k profit in one year”
Either Service Cube is one poorly run, financially unstable company or it should be scrutinized by the IRS. Incidentally, anyone aware of Stratus Indy/Service Cube underreporting income or inflating expenses to avoid paying taxes can actually earn a “hefty” commission from the IRS by alerting them.
If Service Cube is just a barely profitable company that can’t perform services or pay debts any time its hit with a little old lawsuit, anyone thinking of doing business with the ridiculously named Service Cube might consider running away, fast.
Hard Laugh #6: Hefty aka Probably Jerry Wenger: “my heart aches for these 50 and their families, their employee’s and their families…”
Aching hearts are potentially serious medical conditions. I suggest you and the other caring Defendants immediately stop drawing any paychecks and demand that your compensation be given to the fifty whose rightfully earned money is being absconded with. Put your money where your big mouth is, Probably Jerry. What do you say?
In summary, Hefty Windbag/Bill Falkner aka Probably Jerry Wenger states that Stratus Indy aka Service Cube is a barely profitable, poorly run company that has absconded with funds rightfully due to its franchisees to pay the undeserved salaries, bonuses and legal expenses incurred by their own misconduct. He thinks franchisees are so stupid they’ll be outraged by fellow victims rather than those who stole their money twice (by taking their fees, then not paying them).
Anyone thinking of doing business with Service Cube, Stratus Indy, Probably Jerry Wenger or anyone associated with it better think twice. Because while they provide lots of hard laughs, the result is not funny at all.
So many hard laughs by Hefty Bag/Bill Falkner aka Probably Jerry Wenger, self-appointed spokesbag of Stratus Indy and SpokesBlockhead for Service Cube that I forgot one.
Hard Laugh #7 Hefty Bag/Bill Falkner aka Probably Jerry Wenger: “The second round of meetings happen today with the largest and therefore most at stake owner-operators.”
Owner-operators? Owners of what? Seriously, what do they own? A more accurate term would be OWNED-Operators.
A business owner is one who performs services for a client and receives money from that client. What do you call it when someone performs services for a client, the client pays a third party and that third party only pays the one who performed the work if and when they feel like paying them? That third party has the ability to withhold $100K and use the insidious excuse that they’ve got legal expenses to NOT pay the worker the money given to them for the worker’s services rendered?
Who would call that worker a business owner? Indentured servant, maybe. Slave, maybe. Scam or Fraud Victim, likely. OWNED-Operator, for sure. But a business owner? No way!
This type of fraud and coercion is exactly why service workers in this country need strong union representation. Forced Labor and predators bypassing employment laws through sleight-of-hand and wordplay by companies like Stratus Indy aka Service Cube need to be stopped, and individuals need collective bargaining and representation to stop the exploitation.
Service workers of the world… Unite!
Unfortunately, the 50 OWNED-Operators referred to by Hefty Windbag aka Probably Jerry Wenger have set themselves up for further exploitation and even more aggressive manipulation by establishing themselves as unable or unwilling to stand up for themselves.
I hope that when the 50 OWNED-Operators are given the preposterous excuse for not geting paid, they will ask whether Probably Jerry Wenger and the other Defendants are going wihout pay because of the legal expenses of their misconduct and illegal activities. If the Defendants are so caring and outraged, I’m sure they’ll be willing to make sacrifices so their franchisees can afford presents for their kids and Christmas Dinner for their families.
Best yet, ask Probably Jerry Wenger and the other Defendants if they’ll host Christmas dinner at THEIR homes for the OWNED-Operator victims who did not join the lawsuit. I’m sure they will welcome you into their neighborhoods and their homes, and doing so will ease their aching hearts!
OR just show up at their homes on Christmas Day. I’m sure they’ll welcome you with open arms!
@Guest: Wow! Wonder what “vested interest” you may have in this case? Are you an attorney? Could you possibly be the worlds greatest patent attorney? Could you possibly be the worlds greatest “woman’s issue attorney”, you know the one that already has a reputation of filing lawsuits against places such as the local Dollar General Store in beautiful Greenfield? Could you possibly be the worlds greatest “franchise attorney”, you know the one that is attempting to sue everyone from Stratus, to Curves, to Liberty Tax to others, who spends more time blogging and writing self published articles on nearly a daily basis?
So, let’s talk about the powers of Sumo for a moment? Did you realize that his powers can actually “shut this case down”? Did you realize that his powers actually are greater than Fortman, Overhauser, Jack and a local Superior Court Judge combined? Did you realize that his powers have a far reaching effect, one that insures that NO ONE will get a dime?
Sumo will be revealing his head in the next couple of days…….Then we will begin serious talks about the 1st amendment (not that one, the real one) and additional rights under the constitution……God Bless America!
By the way, Plaintiffs, Overhauser/Jack, Bob P. you should be expecting at least phone calls soon!
Hefty: No response to the idea that you forego compensation and donate it to the 50 your heart aches for? Wow, that’s a surprise!
Last week Hefty Windbag aka Probably Jerry Wenger wrote that yesterday the earth was going to open and swallow the Plaintiffs, their attorneys and their case due to this earthshaking revelation by Sumo the Conquerer.
“November 25, 2012 at 8:34 am @ Guest Too, Viewers, Bob P. and others: Soon the true power of Sumo will be revealed, it will only take a couple of days or less for his immense powers to overtake this sham/bogus/lie filled case and send it into another realm!”
Well, that was a big flat tire. Awkward! But have no fear. Hefty Windbag aka Probably Jerry Wenger has rebounded with an even more monumental, earthshaking threat: possible phone calls!
Probably Jerry Wenger writes: “Plaintiffs, Overhauser/Jack, Bob P. you should be expecting at least phone calls soon!”
My goodness! At least phone calls? I bet that’s going to cause some sleepless nights! What’s next? The threat of mean name-calling on the playground?
Hefty Windbag aka Probably Jerry Wenger, you should stop while you’re behind. You won’t, of course. You’re a buffoon bent on exposing to the world the caliber of SHAMrock aka Stratus Indy aka Service Cube… a company that, according to you, will take franchisee money for their own legal expenses and undeserved salaries.
I bet that got the phones ringing at Overhauser from the 50, wondering if it is too late to join.
Please continue with the big threats, Probably Jerry Wenger. It’s fun to watch them fizzle away with any iota of credibility to might have had. Thanks for Hard Laugh #8.
@ Hefty Bag: Stay strong, my brother! Glad to hear that the first three sets of meetings went well and that all HARMED Owner-operators had decided to stay on.
I also like the idea that you floated, I am sure that there are numerous attorneys in the Greater Indy area that would be more than willing to represent a true “class action” case against Overhauser/Jack, Plaintiffs, Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G. and potentially others. As they have lost real dollars, real business, have been contacted literally multiples of times, nearly harrassing levels by someone within and/or representing the Overhauser Law Firm.
50 owner-operators of a class actually not only defending the model/premise of Stratus, but defending the defendants in their own way……Interesting “twist” to a case full of intrigue. Wonder what that would do to the Unit Franchise World in and of itself? I mean to actually have a vast majority of Owner-Operators whom elected on their own NOT to be party to a Bogus/Lie Filled/Sham of a Lawsuit filed on behalf of Impeachable Plaintiffs, Unethical Attorneys, Cast of Characters that include Bob P., Olivia G., Fred G. and/or aka Merle, Truth be Told, Tell the Truth, Anonymous Rex, Anonymous Indy and even more “bloggers” such as the wildly popular in his own mind “Guest” and “Guest Too”.
Wonder what good old Fortman is thinking now?
Bill Falkner writes: ” I am sure that there are numerous attorneys in the Greater Indy area that would be more than willing to represent a true “class action” case”
Ha ha! Hard Laugh #9!
Yes, I am sure attorneys are fighting each other to get in on this action! And I’m sure they’ll be willing to take the handwritten IOUs given to the franchisees by SHAMrock, Stratus Indy, aka Service Cube in lieu of a retainer or fees.
The problem is, Service Cube franchisees don’t have anyone to steal from to pay their legal fees like ScamRock Service Cube does. Maybe they can put Probably Jerry Wenger and the other Defendants’ paychecks toward that initiative when they sign them over to the 50. It is, after all, the franchisees’ money that they are paying themselves with.
Who do you think the 50 will be cursing this Christmas when they can’s afford presents? Their fellow victims? Or those who are buying their families video game consoles, bigger screen TVs and new smartphones with the franchisees’ money? I have yet to hear of a single defendant being told that they won’t be getting paid due to the legal costs of the well-deserved lawsuit.
Oh, Hefty Windbag aka Probably Jerry Wenger aka Bill Falkner, thank you for the gift of levity. Only complete fools will ever fall for your nonsense in the future if they get a chance to reading this thread.
Anyone thinking of doing business with Service Cube should read this conversation and run like hell.
OMG!!!!!! Guest, I tip my hat to you!!! Scamrock Services!!! Ha! Ha! Ha! I laughed until I cried. You have this pegged. Thank You. Probably Jerry Wenger has no idea what is getting ready to come his direction! Windbag is just that. Bullies don’t like being pushed back, in fact it usually shuts them up or send them running.
The Fifty Owned Franchises obviously do not get it, but before all is said and done, they will. Everyone will. EVERYONE WHOM IT MATTERS TO.
Give me a call too. If you don’t get me, leave a message, I’ll get back to ya. NOT.
Uh. One more thing. Which post is it on here that is the 50 Owned Franchises defending Stratus aka Service Crud aka Scamrock Services?
“Which post is it on here that is the 50 Owned Franchises defending Stratus aka Service Crud aka Scamrock Services?”
Good point, Guest Too.
What about it, Hefty Windbag aka Probably Jerry Wenger? Why aren’t any – not one – of the outraged 50 Owned-Operators posting their support for you here? Please invite them to express their support of Scamrock aka Service Cube using THEIR money to pay YOUR salary and their corporate expenses with their Christmas present money?
Please invite them to post that it’s OK to pay you with THEIR money to sit around posting stupid incontinence and bong jokes and generally making Service Cube look more low class than they already do.
I’d love to hear ONE of them say their money supporting your Internet time wasting is money well spent, while their family’s go without.
I do not know way my name is beind drug into this childish stuff
However I am NOT a part of any lawsuits against Stratus
all the people on here cannot be woman are man to say who they are
please keep my name out of this
Since the last week of July 2012 have not been happy at all at Stratus
To the 50 owner operators my prayers go out to you and our family
I am also old money probably more than all of you
I do not understand i can’t understand how a 3,000,000,00.company slash 5,000,000.00 Can not take care of FRANCHISEES
Yes I only paid $1,000.00 to get into stratus
But what the tearm that i have and the knowledge i have pulled off 48 stores in 1 month no franchisee can do that I am not bragging but letting you know that i did not get paid but $47,000.00 out of 140,000.00
Stratus hired a attorney to go After the client but between losing all of my stratus accounts
I AM NOT DOING GOOD AT ALL
You can contact me anytime [redacted]
Note:
Mr. Bag said that this lawsuit does not hurt him PERSONALLY. His family, his financial state will be untouched (for now). Did you mention this to the 50 Owned Franchisees? How do you think they would feel about that Mr. Bag, Probably Jerry Wenger?
You can spend THEIR MONEY, on a lawsuit that probably could have been settled by just paying the people their fees back, cost a lot less, and kept some integrity. Instead you slander, libel, and defame people; threaten lawsuits, and boast about how you are gonna win…but then write, “good luck trying to collect” if you lose.
In your small mind, it’s OK to spend money that is rightfully someone else’s on a legal battle that you are just compounding, (boasting how your Christmas will be white, even if theirs is gonna have to suffer because of all these sinister agents out to get you and your miserable company.) $100K? You could have settled this for less I am sure. Did you tell them that Mr. Bag? I bet they were just warm and fuzzy with compassion and loyalty, sighting “Mr. Bag is for us!” (He just can’t pay us).
Regardless of who you are, Probably Jerry Wenger, you are the representative for Service Cube, Stratus Indy, aka Scamrock Services. This is a ridiculous way you have conducted yourself. NO ONE SHOULD DO BUSINESS WITH YOU. I HOPE YOUR CUSTOMERS REALIZE WITH WHOM THEY ARE DEALING AS WELL.
I’d reconsider myself if I were you. The Ghost of Christmas Future may be waiting in the wings to pay you a visit.
How much of a pay cut did you take in order to contribute to the JUST CAUSE? How much blood are you putting on to help these poor damaged Owned Franchisees? A person as magnanimous as financially secure as yourself out to be able to SACRIFICE HIS SALARY to help the poor HARMED franchise’s, shouldn’t he? What is it besides name calling and threats to people are you doing for these poor dedicated and loyal slaves?
@ Guest Too: Out of the playbook, directly from Obama and David Axlerod. Demonize, Distract, Lie, Cheat, Steal make someone other than yourself the problem. Here’s the real problem, no one has to “sell the truth”. You only have to tell it. What peole want is simply that, just the truth. No one’s version of it.
There were 50 owner-operators harmed, without a doubt, there are many people who HARMED them, without a doubt. Who’s willing to stand up for them? Who’s willing to tell the truth? Is Overhauser/Jack? Is Bob P., Fred G., Olivia G.? How about you? Pay someone “off” for telling lies, Pay someone “off” for causing harm, Pay someone “off” for making false allegations?
You’re right, it would have been cheaper, NEWS FLASH, it wasn’t offered by Plaintifs, nor their attorneys EVER! But it wouldn’t have been accepted anyway.
Did all of this, go too far? Probably.
All financial documents of Shamrock/Stratus are part of the public record for the last four years. Those GREEDY Bastards, made nothing, made next to nothing, made next to nothing, made next to nothing. Bad Management? How about that’s typical in a company four years old or less. How about an owner that chose not to adhere to a “churn policy”, work out reasonable deals with owner-operators etc…
How about this idea, Overhauser/Jack instead of getting sued by the 50 owner-operators just simply send each of them a check for the amounts they didn’t get paid?
Guest Too, I’ll chip in dollar for dollar you, Guest, Bob P. and others do, I’ll even do you one better, I’ll double it! Seems reasonable to me.
Mr Hefly Bag i have asked you not put me in this child stuff I have not LIED Thank you
I just want to be clear, so correct me if I’m wrong: Scamrock aka Stratus Indy aka Service Cube is withholding $100,000 in payments rightfully due to 50 franchisees.
These franchisees paid upfront for guaranteed janitorial jobs. They performed the work. And Scamrock aka Stratus Indy aka Service Cube is refusing to pay them. So the 50 franchisees are out both the upfront money that they paid, the amount they are due for the work they performed, and also the “opportunity costs” of what they could have made if they spent their time at a company that pays their workers, like McDonalds.
Is this correct? And SHAMrock aka Stratus Indy aka Service Cube can find the money to pay their executives / defendants, including Probably Jerry Wenger, who not only paid nothing upfront but got the company sued, but they can’t find the money to pay the 50 franchisees their OWN money?
The $100,000 is the franchisee’s money, pure and simple. Legal bills are corporate costs that have NOTHING do with the franchisees. Blaming the Plaintiffs for Service Cube not paying the 50 franchisees is like blaming the landlord for the office rent, blaming the electric company for their electrical expenses, blaming the auto industry for their car lease payments. Shamrock aka Stratus Indy aka Service Cube is, IMHO, simply taking the franchisees money and doing with it what they will… and that’s not legal.
Hefty Bag aka Probably Jerry Wenger is avoiding this point: If Shamrock aka Stratus Indy aka Service Cube doesn’t have the franchisee’s $100,000, they don’t have the money to pay him and the other defendants. It would seem logical that there should be IMMEDIATE layoffs and the Defendants should be forced to pay back the salaries, commissions and bonuses that were paid to them, either directly or indirectly, out of the $100,000 that was stolen from the 50 franchisees.
Have I got this right? Does this make sense?
Mr. Bag. You continually show your ignorance and arrogant attitude. You have no idea who you may be talking to on here do you? Maybe a Judge? let me get this right along with Guest. The plaintiffs didn’t offer, even if they did, you would have refused to settle a case, prevent all the stuff that is going to happen to you and Service Cube, aka SHAMrock (love that) and all the stuff that is happening, for a few thousand dollars. Instead, you blame everyone else for the stuff that has happened, and are not paying honest hard working people (being taken advantage of by you)why? Because your pride is so twisted you can’t see the smart thing to do. This is business. You screw everyone with your bad business decisions and blame everyone but who the blame is on…YOU.
Why should people who never hurt the 50 franchise holders you are screwing pay for you to match dollar for dollar? With all the posturing and BS you spew, it is not Bob P. who libeled, slandered, or defamed you. Yet, somehow, (if I understand this correct) his ex-wives, and sons have directly impacted the 50 franchises along with him. How does that make any sense? Or Fred G who really seems to be the one who has been hurt from what I understand. You sent him on a job, and didn’t sign a contract for it, and turns out someone scammed you. So you, once again,because of your mistake, you don’t pay him.
I’m beginning to see a pattern here.
Now, you say Stratus revenue is public record, and you must have made it successful, YOU, right? You brag it up, yet you can’t pay Fred G for work already done at your request? Or the 50 franchises who YOU are HURTING. I don’t know who the other people are you blame for your mistakes, but it seems there is always a list developing “waiting to be revealed.”
Do you know there is no cap on a libel suit that is brought against someone in Superior Court? There has been a couple in the news here recently that can serve as precedent. Those suits can be filed against an individual…Probably Jerry Wenger.
You think you are so slick. What if…there is more known than meets the eye? Waiting to be revealed. I mean would you be so underhanded as to use others family members to glean negative information on people you see as a threat? Offering gifts even? Just curious. Believing lies of others to justify your irrational, obsessive, compulsive unprofessional manner you have conducted yourself here? If you do it this way here, how do you do it behind closed doors?
What mud did you sling in those “meetings” with those poor franchises you are not paying? Bob P. and Fred G. are responsible? It is all their fault along with Jacks and Overhauser and the plaintiffs who are forcing you to spend their money on legal fees. It could even be viewed as a threat you made in regards to the family ethics of this group of franchisees. (Was that an ethnic slur?) How is that possible.
You have had the ability to be in control of the outcome here, by doing the right thing, regardless of how you perceive what others may do. YOU could have prevented this all. Gone to far? You bet. There could be some real fallout here, and it may just all fall out on you Mr. bag.
I’d make some apologies, ask some forgiveness if you were asking me. I know you aren’t.
You have made many predictions on here, Jacks fired, Overhauser embarrassed, Bob P will have to move.
Let me make one here. You are not going to be in business a year from now. You will bankrupt Kevin Spellacy, (who pulls the strings from hiding it seems). YOU WILL SINGLE HANDEDLY RUIN SERVICE CUBE. Bob P.tried to get you to stop, pull in the reigns and just let stuff play out. It was good advice. Private detectives trying to dig up dirt on people, who are not hiding to begin with, is money wasted again. Where did you go to business school? Mean Girls?
You were so eager to defame others and prop yourselves up, trying to make yourselves look like the damaged party. All you needed do was take the high road. You were even told to take it by the very ones you attacked. Pride kills. It also bankrupts.
I receive a email if you telling us to keep you out of it tell them
Guest please keep me out of this thank you
I was e-mail and asked to clear up my statement ok
My Company (G.I.S.) has done over 135,000.00 and with all the fee and the supplies and the money that was paid out i will receive $49,000.00
I receive a email yesterday saying i’m only geting $20,000.00 in 2 years
Everybody is blaming Jerry he does not cut the (checks)
He is a big part of the blame Kevin is to to me more than him
to the 50 owner operator/employees
if you need help for christmas as in personals are foods
my door is open [redacted] i have connectios with churches
also i was told stratus made 3,000,000.00
i do not know that for a fact
No body is telling me anything when i ask him qustions so I Fredrick Goodloe
will be call all attorneys anybody have to do with this
Thank you
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@Guest Too: Sorry, I maybe a little arrogant, without a doubt. But the Truth is as follows:
1) Overhauser/Jack contacted the potential plaintiffs or at least someone in their office did. Some of these people (that chose willingly NOT to join this bogus, lie filled, sham of a lawsuit) were contacted to the point that they were yelling at the person calling ” don’t f****in call me anymore! (direct quote)
2) Plaintiffs (9) decided to listen to what Overhauser/Jack were “selling” and made false allegations, false statements, impeachable statements at the very least. They called the owner (only shareholder), the company (not Stratus Franchsing, but Stratus of Indiana) and its management team literally everything under the sun including forming a modern day “slave pool”. Now it has been suggested more than once, that Kevin/Shamrock/Jerry Wenger/Pamella Martins should have “paid Plaintiffs off”! Are you kidding me?
3) Overhauser/Jack were given over 400 pages of documentation proving over 98% of all allegations made against Spellacy/Martins/Wenger/Shamrock were false and/or at best mis-stated. BEFORE any actual court proceedings, BEFORE any Subpeona’s had been issued.
4) It is a well known fact that WENGER, without attorney, sat and was deposed for over 4 hours answering ALL questions posed to hime, without taking the “5th” once.
5) Through various legal manuvers by Overhauser/Jack an additional 200 pages of documentation including ALL insurance policies, ALL financial statements, ALL tax returns for Shamrock/Spellacy were turned over.
I’m not going to keep going on and on about what has happened to this point in case. But here is the REAL Truth, not my version, not Overhauser/Jack’s and most assuridly the attempted to rehabilitate “saint or light” Bob P.
The only people HARMED were the 50 innocent owner-operators that got SCREWED, their families, their employees and their families.
They got SCREWED and HARMED by the following:
1) Overhauser/Jack
2) 9 Plaintiffs
3) Bob P.
4) 2 Attorneys representing Shamrock
5) Kevin Spellacy
6) Jerry Wenger
All the ABOVE and a couple of more very minor players ALL attributed to the SCREWING received by the 50 Plaintiffs.
Now the future, They want to simply be left alone! They don’t want to have anymore HARM come their way, They want to continue to build their businesses, they want to continue to serve their customers, they want to focus on the FUTURE!
So, WHO am I talking too? The shame is here, we aren’t actually that far apart in the following, unfortunately because Attorneys have conditions for talking, there is simply a WALL that develops and NO ONE is wiling to come out of their corners, over those walls and speak honestly with one another anymore.
The MODEL for commercial cleaning franchising is FLAWED. It is HUGELY Flawed! There was a reason Shamrock/Spellacy, approx. 15 other Masters in the Stratus Franchising System left. Those that left RAN their businesses in an ethical and upstanding manner, ALL of them REFUSED to do the “churn and burn” templete! Unfortunately, the MODEL wasn’t what came under fire, it was the local Master (former Master) and its Management Team.
Where do we go from here? Your Move.
@ Viewers: I made a mis-statement, there are no 50 Plaintiffs as of yet. I should have stated the 50 owner-operators, who chose willingly NOT to join the 9 Plaintiffs.