IS AMWAY A SCAM?

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• An old friend from high school had me join her in a meeting yesterday at someone’s house. The people in the room all had great energy and zest for life for sure, but I can’t deny that I’m a little skeptical. I’m not saying that success through Amway is impossible.
  I couldn’t help but see that yes of course I’d love to be the dictator of my own time and have money to travel the world etc. and they would say “is this you? is this what you want in life? then make it a priority”. but really, that’s everyone. who doesn’t want to have time and money? Reaching out to people by asking them if they’d like to pursue their dreams as a way to recruit them was smart though. One thing that bothered me was that they sold the lifestyle you could attain, overlooking the NEEDED 9-5 workers for you to do so. By that I mean, if you have the time to do what you want in life, like travel, you still need those willing to exchange hours for dollars. And to me that seemed wrong. I know that’s how life under capitalism works. The few successful and everyone else under them generating their success. But being at that top level is not part of my dream.
  Another thing is they want you to drop everything else in your life for it. Which makes sense, because to be successful in MLM you need to put your all into it to get results. But that included things like not getting University degrees. And I already know as an English major it will be extremely difficult to find a rewarding job. The thing is that getting a well-paying job is not what I am in University for. I am taking English because I like literature, and I LIKE writing, and I LIKE school. They made it sound like a waste of time and money, which offended me because a degree is not all that I am getting out of University, but an experience that I wouldn’t just drop for a million dollars.
  After reading some of these comments I’m even more skeptical about what it seems like I’m getting myself into. The people I met are definitely great and ambitious people, but I’m not sure if I want to just jump into it. And after the meeting, saying that makes me feel like I’m not ambitious, which makes me doubt it even more. Just because you are exchanging hours for money doesn’t necessarily make you a zombie under the capitalist system, because I am still enjoying my life. And there isn’t one way to do that. If you like what you do in life, a 9-5 job could even be a good thing.

• I was given a presentation yesterday… Not impressed at all but purchased a few products just to give them a try. I won’t believe something until I try it myself. The man couldn’t explain how Amway gets the funds to send me a check every month. All he said pretty much was that I had to recruit more people and those people had to recruit more people, etc, etc. Not convinced at all but I let them finish their presentation out of kindness. What amazed me was how hard they try to make you believe that the products sold by this company are “the best in the planet.”

• So I live in Colorado and I went mountain biking last weekend and I met this fellow rider. We rode together and I thought to myself. ” hey look I made a new friend” we’ll I was wrong! After the ride he asked me for my phone number so we “can go riding again” I gave him my number and told him to shoot me a text when he wanted to ride with me and my buddies.

  Before I left the trailhead he stopped me and said “hey man I think you are very smart and you have really good dreams, can we have coffee tomorrow” I was like alright man. Well the next day we met at this coffee shop and then he started to talk about amway. Basically using the excuse that I don’t have time and that my job was eating it so I couldn’t follow my dreams because of my job.

  He said that it wasn’t a scheme and that it really works. he showed me a few videos and talked more about it and basically said yes for me because he was making plans for me to join his group! Anyways he went on saying that he makes tons of money and that his friends also do it and they are rich and I can become rich too, He said that you’re not going to need a job after you joining amway because you are gonna have so much money and that it was gonna be so easy!!

  Well during that meeting he gave a few CDs and told me to return it to him once I was done. I said okay. Today we were supposed to meet so I can return the CDs. I’ve already said no to him via text message because i talked to my fiance and my family and they said it was a bad idea. he replied back saying “you don’t know what you are saying no to” anyways he called me saying that he wasn’t going to make it and that why i didn’t want to join and I said personal reasons. Well the man started to said I was making the wrong decision and bashing my dreams saying I will never make it without amway and that I was gonna end up broke and no Job.

  He also started to bash my fiancé and family saying that they don’t know what they are talking about and that they are negative and liars.seriously? I told him to F*** off and to never contacted me again! Seriously this people need to get a grip. Why tell me you don’t need a job yet, you are working for a roofing company? What a liar! This people are very pushy and reading all this comments seem to confirm what my family said “joining amway is a bad idea! Stay away from it and run away!”

  I’m glad I made the right decision!

• Sandra, I know how Amway gets the funds to send you a check. They include that bonus as a part of the cost of the product. For that reason, you will find that is nearly all cases, Amway products will cost more than comparable or similar products that you can get at Walmart. The need to use the pitch about quality because Amway will rarely win for being the cheapest product/. But quality is subjective.

  Ask the presenters why the diamonds are still working if they can get residual income and walk the beaches of the world. Ask the presenter how much the diamonds earn from tools and functions versus their Amway income. I doubt they will answer you. It will be none of your business or that they are working because they want to help their downline. It’s BS.

• Thanks MTBiker89 for a great story.

  I think it’s an opportunity to share your annoying Amway salesperson experience, and agree or disagree with the fact that everyone hates Amway IBOs (or will, eventually):

  AMWAY IBOs: Why Everyone Hates You

• The answer to the question posed in this thread is “YES.” For the details, see http://www.stoptheamwaytoolscam.wordpress.com.

• My friend joined amway and ever sence all he does is talk amway. He says I should join amway and quite my job. I asked him why he still works if he makes so much money, why he is always broke. He wont answer. Amway is a scam, a very well thought out scam. The products are over expencive and honestly not worth it. And what kind of company charges 16 dollars for shipping a 20 dollar item?

• Amway, is a $10 billion biz! Over 60 yr’s old. Ask yourself this: what is the cost of products at a 7 ELEVEN? Are they as cheap as Walmart or expensive and possibly more than Amway? Amway now offers name brand food products, like Oreo’s, Famous Amos, Cheerios. Scam??? No!

  There was a time when franchises were called a scam in America. Amway, is in more than 100 countries. So how do you make money? You make purchases, use the products & make retail sales.

  You need to ask yourself why are the products so cheap at Walmart? Why are people paid so little, what are the people paid that manufacture the products? Will they always be cheap? How do those employees survive in the Bay Area on such low wages? They can’t. They get food stamps, yes you are paying them through the gov!

  Amway, is tough to build as are most MLM’s. Visit their website and view all the good they’ve done on a global bases helping children. Millions have been donated and some people have changed their lives. Yes, its a dream. Yes, most will fail. I plan to join for a third time with a plan of better action. (local marketing and loyalty give backs),

  Check prices at your favorite local 7 Eleven and then compare. Search the cost of ownership of the franchise, note: it’s 30k – 1.5 million!!! How many can afford that? And you can’t be an absentee owner. Check other franchises. The time is right to build a MLM business. Amway isn’t the only one out there! You can build globally and take advantage of tax breaks.

  An education is no guarantee of success. However a solid Amway biz can allow you to go to school! No need to quit a job or school. Build part time and be patient! Success is a journey, not a destination!

  Success to all!

• Amway does 10 billion but their IBO’s still earn pennies (on average). The products are very expensive that’s why they cannot compete with Walmart.

  Funny you speak of Walmart having cheap products but their employees get paid cheap. Amway has expensive products but most IBO’s make nothing or lose money. That’s ironic.

  An education gives you a much better chance of long term success than Amway. Anyone arguing that is crazy.

• Amway is a “success” because there are enough desperate suckers out there to believe their story and join up for the promise of riches.

  I can’t believe people can actually fall for this crap

• Joecool, I think you’re Joe stupid!!!! Walmart, is frowned upon in many cities because they destroy local businesses with low prices. How is that helping Americans move forward? Sure we all love low prices, but at what cost?

  Americans have bought into the notion of “savings” yet what do you do with those savings?

  Yes, the majority of Amway IBO’s will fail. Is it really because the products don’t work? Or are too expensive? No, it because as with any business it takes hard word and a strategy to be successful. Many quit before they get started because family and friends say “that won’t work”! Is that a reason not to consider a Network Marking business? I say no.

  Sure Walmart has low prices, but every year many people purchase a 7 Elevens franchise for over 200 hundred thousand dollars. They do so in-spite of Walmart.

  I recently compared 6 boxes of Cheerios to 6 at Walmart. The difference in price between the to was less than $1.00. Yes, I was pleasantly surprised! No I’m not an IBO with Amway, (was in the past).

  So Joecool, check out those Cheerios prices and let us know what you found out. Also check with your local 7 Eleven or other convenience store.

• Paul:

  People say they hate Wal-mart yet they spend a high percentage of their income there. Why? Because it’s convenient. Cheap. They use their enormous advertising and branding power to keep top of mind with consumers. I don’t like Wal-mart, but i go there, get my crap and get out. I have no interest in searching for an alternative source for Cheerios or toothpaste or vitamins or anything else.

  Amway provides a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. People have a lot of concerns and needs. A better vendor for mouthwash or power bars is not one of them. Amway IBOs fail because they are the only ones who think there’s a demand for them and what they’re selling. You are naive and un-savvy but Amway has convinced you it is the rest of the world that’s not getting it.

  Your comparison of Amway to 7-Eleven is completely invalid. Your point is: people buy overpriced crap from 7-Eleven, so therefore they’ll buy overpriced crap from Amway IBOs. 7-Eleven sells predominantly to lower class urban dwellers. Do Amway IBOs sell cigarettes? That’s about 30% of the convenience store business. Lottery tickets? Coffee? Slurpees and Big Gulp fountain drinks?

  Convenience stores feed off impulse purchases (Convenience. Hence the name). Can I call my Amway IBO at 3 am when I need a pack of smokes?

  Amway IBOs fail because consumers don’t need – or want – what you guys are so desperate to sell. Amway is like a big sad joke that everyone except the IBOs are in on.

  I know it sounds mean, but it’s true.

• Paul (Paul Stupid?)

  Walmart hurts small business because small business cannot match Walmart’s low prices. But in the end, the consumer wins and gets the best price.

  IBO’s fail because Amway is a flawed business. Less than 1% of IBO’s reach platinum. If the whole world signed up, less than 1% would platinum. The system is designed to have a few successes while the masses make nothing or lose money. Factor in the tools and you can have massive losses.

  I assume the cheerios is cheaper than Amway. You say less than $1.00 but factor in shipping through Amway and what is the price difference then? Walmart will match the price of any advertised product that is the same as one you can get at Walmart. Amway has no such offer. And yes, 7-11 is made for convenience. Amway is not. No comparison.

  I agree with Scamway. Amway is basically obsolete. IBO’s are not needed and they do not provide convenience or any other advantage for a consumer. That’s why Walmart does hundreds of billions in sales compared to Amway who sells most of it’s products exclusively to IBO’s who have dreams but no money.

• Greets,

  It’s a scam. It’s always been a scam. It will always be a scam.

  Let me clarify: Amway might make great products or not.

  Herbalife makes shake mix, etc.

  But regardless of what those or other financially successful MLMs tell the FTC, the truth is always that the lionshare of the money going to the top of the “MLM” is made via recruiting new people into the … “business”.

  In the sales materials, they often go to great lengths to hide this truth. Talk of downlines and uplines and on and on and on.

  Doesn’t matter. It’s a scam. And it’s horrible. And people lose lots of money needlessly.

  The individuals that perpetuate these frauds should go to prison.

  —
  Furry cows moo and decompress.

• It’s not just Amway that’s a scam. MLM itself is a scam. Any business model that is reliant on the recruitment of new members is flawed from the outset and it is mathematically impossible for the overwhelming bulk of all but the very earliest members to earn any significant sums of money from it. Why? Because MLM crashes into the inevitable cliff-face of simple arithmetic.

  If 10 new members join just one single MLM network (out of the multiplicity of MLM networks in the marketplace) and, as a condition of membership, have to recruit even just 10 new members each, then for the initial 10 and every new member below them to even fulfill the basic recruitment criterion (never mind earning any money from it), it would require 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 members to be signed up and be ready, willing and able to sell products to willing customers outside the membership. The only problem is that 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10 people is more people than the entire population of the planet – including new born babies, the aged, the infirm, the incapacitated and the very poorest of the people in the very poorest countries on the face of the globe. Remember, that was a calculation based on just one single MLM network.

  The only reason that MLM businesses can continue trading is because new babies are born, grow up, reach the age of maturity and join the economy’s laborforce every day. A small proportion of these new entrants to the laborforce are naive, gullible and susceptible to the solicitations of desperate MLM recruiters and therefore fall prey to MLM recruiters and spend money they will never recuperate on franchises, training and stock that will never benefit them and will not be bought by discerning consumers outside the membership. To put it simply, MLM works because new fools (like Paul) are born in every generation. MLM relies on the truism that a fool is soon parted from his money. As long as babies continue being born, MLM businesses like Amway will always have new fools to prey upon and part from their money.

• Like Gary and many other posters above, the debate of whether Amway, or any MLM business, is a scam or not has nothing to do with the actual tangible product. The “scam” debate is about the lies, deceit, withholding and false hope that these businesses spread. A good example are the products that Amway sells; yes they do sell real brand name items BUT deceitful and/or ignorant IBOs will tout Amway’s “partnership” with these other brands.

  There probably are vitamins or skin products or coffee out there that will work for certain people offered through MLMs. However, the very nature of network marketing relies on the endless recruiting of new “entrepreneurs. There are so many resources out there for any lurkers reading this. Google search the word “cult”. The results will surprise you how exact they describe ANY MLM.

• I never officially joined (THANKFULLY) but back when I was living in Philly, I was approached once by an Amway rep and he was a real shady character. I felt like I was in a scene form some DiCaprio movie. It was at this networking event and this guy in a pinstripe suit who looked and talked just like DiCaprio (hence the earlier reference) came up to me. He asked what type of work I did and I told him that I was working a part time sales job for a radio station. but was in the process of searching for a full-time job at an ad agency. I asked him what he did and in a real slick tone, he said, “I do ECommerce Business Development.” He pulled me aside and said was like, “I’ll tell you what we do here. You know Amazon?”

  “Uhh, yeah, I know Amazon.”

  “What we do here is we teach you how to build your own….AMAZON.”

  At this point, I knew he was bullshitting because whenever someone makes a promise that seems to good to be true, it probably is. But I wanted to be polite so I just nodded and said, “Oh, that sounds pretty cool.”

  Then, he asked about my schedule and I told him which days I was working and then he was like, “So, you’re free Monday nights?”

  I’m like, “I guess I am.” That’s when he cornered me into meeting up with him. Without asking first whether I’d even be interested, he put me down for 7 o’clock the following Monday.

  I didn’t want to be an asshole and stand him up so I figured I’d meet with him, listen to what he had to say, tell him I’d think about it, and then let him down easy over a text message, which goes to show that I’m way too nice. So we met up at some coffee show, which happened to right across the street from the Eastern State Penetentiary (told you this was going to sound like a DiCaprio movie). He tried to explain to me how I could get rich much more quickly because I’d be buying my own products. Then, he gave me some CDs and magazine artcles that were supposed to further explain why Amway would be such a genius investment and why I’d be an idiot not to join it. To be polite, I took the material and told him I’d look at it. I did not realize, however, that this was how he was going to corner me into meeting him a second time.

  So, he tried to schedule a second meeting. I thought I knew his game so I told “why don’t I check my schedule and get back to you.” Then he said that because he has other clients, he’ll only let me hold onto the material for a few days, something he conveniently forgot to mention before he handed me the material. I had no choice but to schedule a second meeting with him.

  So, we met up the following Sunday. By this time, I had landed a full-time job in Manhattan and was in the process of looking for an apartment in Hoboken (where I now live). Thankfully, I had a legit excuse for not joining Amway. When we met up the second time, I told him, “You know, I looked at the material (l lied) and it sounds really interesting but I’m in the process of moving and I’m about to start a new job so I really don’t have the time to get involved with Amway right now.” He told me he understood but that wasn’t the end. First, he set up an Amway account for me and even added products to MY shopping cart. Then, he tried to ask for my friends’ information and told me he wanted to set up a meeting with all of them so they could learn about the benefits of joining Amway. That made me really uncomfortable. It’s one thing to try to sell me on it but to now, he wants me to exploit my friends? Still being polite, I told him that I’d talk to my friends about it and see if they’re interested (again, I lied). A couple days after I moved to Hoboken and started my new job, I got a text from him asking how my new job was going. I was well aware of his game by this time and did not respond. I haven’t heard from him since.

• Here is the truth about amway. i am an IBO but i dont sugar coat

• On his blog, Tristan writes: “This month I worked pretty hard and made only 12 bucks…. I recently became an up-line of a good friend of mine that i went to military school with. He is making more than I am right now maybe 50 or 60 bucks more. Not a lot but he is making more…”

  This is the typical story of Amway defenders: “I’m not making sh*t but I will some day, so it’s not a scam and I’m not a sucker.”

  Funny how NO ONE ever comes on here and says: “Here’s my real name, and here’s proof I’m making a crapload of money with Amway.”

  It’s like those Urban legends. They are always repeated by people thirdhand. “Well, I didn’t actually SEE the 12 foot alligator in the NY sewer but I know they’re real cuz a friend of a friend saw it and they wouldn’t lie.”

  C’mon, Tristan. wise up dude. Stop lying to yourself. You’ll never EVER net more from Amway than you’d make as a greeter at Wal Mart.

• well you can make money just depends on how much effort you stick into it. think about it, i have a successful business cleaning houses and commercial buildings. just one person plus gas plus supplies well it gets subtracted out of what job you make( margin). if you get a team together yes you pay them but more less time to clean means more houses per day ( productivity) every business has this. it took me 2 yrs to build what i have in the cleaning business. naturally i thought of amway, I didn’t join because I’m too busy but know very many successful people in the field. i can give you names what what they do for a living….. just amway. i have met these people and can vouch for what i am saying

• Amway works.
  What doesn’t work sometimes are the people that join amway.
  The world is a big place and there is a little bit of everything.
  It is sad to hear the experinces that some people have had with those already affiliated with the company. Because most of the time those people are in it for all the wrong reasons. Are we money hungry? No we just want that little extra that will get our children into college or allow us to help our parents financially.

  If you aren’t interested then you must have a great and fulfilling life, but don’t take the opportunity from some else who is looking for financial stability.

  Amway is not made for everyone, that’s the truth. But if you are willing to put in the time not only will you be rewarded but those you guide along the way will also be rewarded. And thats really the best feeling. Getting to that point where you know you helped another human being and his family. Knowing what they were going through before they entered Amway. You will have a wonderful life, and you will have friends that decided to share a vision with you and help hundreds if not thousands of people.

• Amway diamonds who retire young with untold wealth are like the Loch Ness monster or Sasquatch.

  A lot of people have heard about it. Some people claim to have seen them but nobody has any proof that they actually exist.

• Amway’s new hierarchy of evilness:

  Diamond IBOs and above = Draculas
  Emerald IBOs = Vampires
  Sapphire, ruby and platinum = Witches
  Rest of the useless IBOs = Zombies

  “Live the cult dream”

  Draculas
  |
  Vampires
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  Witches
  |
  Zombies

• I was approached by one of the IBOs yesterday, honestly I never heard of Amway before and he wants me to join. My question is there really chance of making money if work hard and what do they mean by working hard?

• You have about as much chance as winning the lottery. And the sad thing is that Amway is not a game of chance. Do your research and get as much information as you can. Despite what the IBO might tell you, it’s good to hear both sides of the story. Not just the fluff the IBO will give you.

  Click on my name for my Amway blog.

• Hello, can somebody please explain why is it that big name companies like apple and best-buy have partnerships with amway? If it was illegal their lawyers would’ve said something before signing a partnership contract.

• Can someone explain why companies like Enron and Worldcom had partnerships with Amway? Is it because scams are attracted to scams?

  Didn’t Amway lawyers do their research?

• Stay away from this group. Google all the complaints from other people and most of them believe it is a cult. Now questions is the following: where is the FBI to investigate these allegations. If anything, NSA should be watching these people from Amway. They really do crazy things.

• Add another point. I knew a person who went to their meetings and decided not to join Amway because of their strange brainwashing tactics. This group lives in the past instead of moving forward. Needless to say, Amway harassed this person for awhile. Where is the FBI to investigate these allegations? NSA should be watching Amway.

• Frankly Amway is legal and it requires open mind and guts to think it’s positive aspects. Negativity is by default and positivism comes by knowledge.

• These are all very interesting points. One thing that I noticed a trend on is how people use Walmart as an example to make their points. I exercise caution in using Walmart to prove any point. Here are some reasons why.

  – Walmart forces managers to work long hours for less pay, employees to do overtime without pay, and skimps everyone on health benefits.
  – Walmart manufactures overseas to cut costs.
  – Walmart although employing approximately 300 (see above employment stipulations). However, 250 people doing retail work lose jobs when a Walmart opens because Walmart drives small retailers out of business.
  – Walmart forces manufacturers to sell them products at discounted costs. This is fine when manufacturers find ways to be more efficient. Sadly they tend to be forced to find ways to be cheaper. A result of this is that the products provided by major manufacturers provided to Walmart are the ones of lesser quality than the same product provided to other retailers.
  – Walmart has gained purchasing power do to the volume (not quality) of sales that it drives. From what I have read, volume is Amway’s driving force as well and with it they boast quality. Any retailer that believes they have a quality product will boast quality. Walmart slogan, “Save Money, Live Better” which replaced their previous slogan, “Always Low prices. Always”. I don’t see the word quality in either. So, to assume they have the same quality goods at lower prices is a bold or shortsighted assumption to make.

  I encourage you to do your own research. I encourage you to investigate Amway just as closely as you should investigate Walmart and any other retailer. That is just being a smart consumer and individual seeking means to make money in retail.

  You should not blindly listen to the pros of anything anymore than you should blindly listen to the cons. Go out and get answers for yourself. See both sides of the fence and decide what is best for you.

  Then again, that is just my opinion

• I personally, do not believe Amway is a scam. I think it can be sometimes presented in a “hyped up” kind of way, and I think some IBOs can be “scammy”. But I think the Amway system has potential and for the right person in the right team and guidance, it could bring success. Unfortunately, I was not the right person. But that doesn’t mean that you aren’t.

• If Amway wouldn’t lie when recruiting it might be less of a scam. Or if Amway leaders didn’t lie to their downline it might be less of a scam….

• Pity u paul bigtime…..braiwashed so badly…feel so sorry for u really !!!!hating amway more everyday….

• Hi to all of you doubters and believers. I am based in Lancashire,England and way back in the middle 1970’s I was an Amway Agent. I was introduced to Amway by a business contact from my then regular line of work.
  After going through the basics of the ‘Business Plan’ I was in ‘Like a Rat up a drain pipe’. The products were unquestionably excellent and everyone of them did exactly what it was designed to do and for the most part left standard/run of the mill products for dead.
  I very quickly created a group of some 30 distributors and continued with Amway for a couple of years with my then wife.
  Yes promoting the products and the Amway business plan was time consuming and being self employed in my regular work and bringing-up a growing family was a bit like ‘Juggling Custard’.
  It became more and more difficult to continue and sadly I ceased promoting the business plan and being involved in all that it entailed.
  I still have a couple of bottles of their Amway Silicone Glaze car polish and also some Zoom and LOC. I occasionally seek Amway products out on E’bay as and when required and still stand-by their products and the fact that they perform as expected.

• John, glad you enjoyed the Amway products, but you are one of the many who could not make the business part work. It’s not uncommon because Amway’s MLM is a flawed system designed for the masses to fail.

• I was recently recruited to an Amway “meeting” by an acquaintance I met over the weekend. The invite info was kept vague; when I tried to probe for more information, I was told a name but the name was invalid when the did the Google search. Needless to say, I am well aware of the MLM business model before attending this meeting. Prior to going, I thought it was a business networking event. However, after sitting in for 5 minutes, I thought to myself, “OMG, I carpooled to LA for thus?!” I live in OC (approximately 30 minutes to LA without traffic). FYI: there was traffic from and to the meeting. Basically I was kidnapped and held hostage for 6.5 hours of my life that I’ll never get back.

  One of the thing that I find perplexing is that, after the second talk, which was the training had that no training information, I left the meeting room to use the restroom. One of the people that I went with, stood in the lobby and waited for me. At first I thought it was strange but as I start to walk back into the meeting, he said that it’s only for members since they’re promoting new IBOs. QUESTION: why are non-members not permitted when they’re promoting new IBOs?

  And the stupidest thing is, on the way home, the people turned on the CD of more success stories, and I had to sit through that in LA traffic. I must say, I applaud Amway for their new and innovative techniques of recruitment–the recruiter drives you away from your car so you cannot escape.

  1) Amway attempt appealing to naive college students–you have the free time to make Amway work for you.
  2) Success stories from every industry niche: biochemists, accounts, chemist, etc…
  3) The deadbeat who found financial freedom despite being fired from 15 jobs in a year.
  4) The 25 year old Dance Major whose aspiring dreams is to succeed through Broadway but gave up cause it’s not practical–but Amway IS practical
  5) The serious college graduate who is struggling to make ends meet with the fragile economy–because you’re now your own boss.

  You get the idea, the list goes own. But from my experience, that’s one detailed way to brainwash and sell their misconceptions and lies.

  And the most HILARIOUS thing was, after googled the name of the speaker: Jingwan Wang’s Linkedin, who supposedly joined Amway when she was a freshman in college and now holds a Masters in Accounting, does NOT have Amway mentioned in her Linkedin profile. But I do not blame her.

  So if anyone can answer my question, that would be awesome!
  QUESTION: why are non-members not permitted when they’re promoting new IBOs?

• Michelle, thanks for sharing your story. Looks like Amway hasn’t changed much after all. Sounds like IBO’s are the same yesterday and today. Lies are common as well as demonizing other legitimate interests.

• I have a sister who has been in the business 10yrs and still has made nothing. She regularly attends meetings out of town and comes home with videos of huge mansions and lamborghinis the “diamonds” in the business own. I decided to pay attention to the ‘details’ and noticed something. Everyone she has met this year that makes millions have been in Amway one year or less. Each of them are from Columbia, have some connection with South America or are “pilots”. And yes, the money she makes is mostly from buying the products herself so she can get so called discounts and make money back. So she spends 3x what she would pay at a store plus shipping to make less than a 10% profit. I’m thinking (a)cult (b)money laundering (c)drugs. I agree the government should waste no time in investigating them.

• Funny how you see videos of luxuries and nice things but hardly anyone actually makes money in Amway.

• I’ve met lots of Doctors and Lawyers who have given up their practices to be Amway IBO’s : – )

• Barth –

  Yes and doctors and lawyers are well known to be savvy and sophisticated business people.

  Not!

  Amway is a slow way to waste your time and not make money while pursuing their cult like get rich scheme.

  I’ll sell you soap and so will P&G.

• This guy I haven’t heard from in years randomly started texting me telling me he’s going to be a part of a new fitness/nutrition business near me & maybe I would be a good fit. I thought that sounded interesting, so I tuned in to the webcast he told me about. Halfway through, I told him this sounds like a pyramid scheme. I told him I hate sales &I have a lot going on I don’t need a 2nd job thanks but no thanks,etc. He was very rude & pushy talking offensively about my current job & saying that amway isn’t a job & he has control of his life now & blah blah blah. Basically wouldn’t take no for an answer which REALLY set off a red flag to me since he seems so desperate…anyways that’s how I came across this forum by googling to confirm that it is indeed a scam!

• Ask the guy to see his business financials – the profit and loss statements. That normally shuts these folks up.

• La mayoría son comentarios de personas que no saben de lo que hablan porque no han hecho el negocio o no saben hacerlo. Most of the comments are not rigth because they belong to people who have never done the business or dont know how to do it.

• AMWAY IS FULL OF SHIT THEY ALL SOME ZOMBIE CULT ASS AMBOTS WHO JUST WANT U TO BRING MORE MEMBERS AND DONT EVEN CARE ABOUT SELLING THEIR OVERPRICED PEICES OF SHIT PRODUCTS, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND DONT JOIN THIS “COMPANY” AKA A FUCKING CULT THAT WILL ANNOY THE SHIT OUT OF YOU AND NOT WANT TO GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK ONCE YOU REALIZE HOW STUPID AND WORTHLESS THIS “BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY” IS. AFTER WEEEKS OF CALLING THE COMPANY AND MY UPLINE I JUST HAD TO SHOW UP AT HIS DOOR WITH A FEW HEADBUSTERS TO GET MY MOTHAFUCKING $168 BACK! FUCK AMWAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

• I have worked amway with my dad. Did not like their business plan. I researched until I found a legitimate business we others help me grow. I have and know I can make more than my mentor. I don’t sell a thing but I tell people my story. You don’t have to join. Just keep an open minded and know you could feel better taking back your health who leave building wealth. Amway doesn’t do that; you sell to make money for those who ask you to help them.

  I care about your health and wealth but I will disqualify you if I believe you don’t have the qualities I am looking for this 12 year old multi billion dollar company that has produced 21 millionaires this year and looking to double that by next year. Good luck. Wishing you great health and wealth.

• Hi Pam, who are these 21 millionaires and how do you know they are actually millionaires? I know they haven’t shown you their financial disclosures.

• Steve Zeller & his wife are a scam from Parker, CO!!!

• Why are we comparing 7/11 to walmart? LOL. That is warped logic. Not the same type of business at all. You’re trying to legitimize your scam by comparing it to a shiesty gas station? Is 7/11 paying their employees more than walmart? I thought gas station employees were mainly GED people and excons? Anyway, The reason you know its a scam is the fact that they work so hard to recruit. You could probably make some money doing it if you had sales skills, but you would be screwing over other people by recruiting them or by convincing them to buy your overpriced products so in order to function an be able to make the sales required you have to believe the BS to some extent hence the propaganda. I cant train a good sales force unless they believe in what they are doing. Anyway I just thought it was hilarious that argument used to legitimize it was comparing a shiesty gas station to Walmart.

  And as far as college. That is a scam too, but just like most scams we are forced to endure that one.