HUMAN HEALTHY VENDING: Are HUMAN Operators Making HUGE Profits?

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• They mention a projection of net profit above based on the sales volume in the matrix but how is that "net profit." It seems as though it does not take into consideration ANY of the operating expenses of running a business likes this, which would make it entirely innacurate. I used to run a vending route many years ago in Indiana and I had to pay insurances, wages, permits, merchant services fees, space rentals, and more. I don't think this is an accurate portrayal at all, although I am admittedly not one of their customers. Guidance anybody?

• HUMAN BUYS THE MACHINES FROM JOFEMAR AND THEY ARE CONSTRUCTED BY A 3RD PARTY (AVT). AVT is full of even more shit then HUMAN. HUMAN and AVT know the machines will not last more them a year since the machines aren’t designed for regular use. The machines are more like a piece of art that you store in an area with no light, but they tell you to place it in the light. The machines currently have a manufacture defect wit the fuse blowing out due to the refrigeration design, but they aren’t telling the customers that and nor are they fixing the defect. Instead they are selling fuse holders to customers and telling them that its normal to purchase fuse on a regular basis. We are so sick of HUMAN and AVT.

• Brett you are absolutely correct, and they aren't including the franchise fees, and commission, to the locations where the machines are housed. YOU MAKE NO MONEY.
  OHHH AND THE MARKETING IS BASED ON YOU GOING OUT INTO THE FEILD AND FINDING AND GETTING LEADS. HUMAN Sits back and gets a cut for doing nothing!!!! They don't even want to help you when your machine is down. We currently have a couple machines down, and they don't want to ship us the parts we need to fix it even though we are still under warranty. Total waste of money!!!! I would have gotten more bangs for my bucks on a stripper that kept her cloths on. HUMAN IS A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY!!!!!

• While I don't call HUMAN a complete scam, I will say that there are some huge representations and lots of nasty surprises once you sign up.

  That Vending Profit Matrix above starts at 15 vends per day for ten machines and goes to 35 vends per day average for ten machines. I don't know anyone hitting those averages across all their machines. I have four machines placed and have been unable to place my 5th. They are doing 3-5 vends per day average. I know another operator in my market who is doing 10 vends per day in their best machines. How can you make money after paying $12K for machines and even more for placement?

  That's the big problem, HUMAN doesn't share the risk. They make their money upfront and succeed whether you do or not.

  The charts above show how they misrepresent the potential. As brett and Mrs. betta state, lots of real expenses are left out of the profit calculations. Also, the numbers are calculated assuming steady revenue 7 days a week, 365 days per year. The target is schools, which are only open 5 days a week, and about 8 months a year when you figure summer and christmas break, numerous holidays.

  Schools average 180 days of instruction per year. Why are the charts based on 365 days?

  As far as "Adventising," that is a complete bust. HUMAN started giving out its national ads for free, how could they turn around and start charging? Has a check EVER been sent out to operators? Has anyone, ever achieved $56,000 profit selling commercials on a vending machine?To be promoting this as a viable advertising business when after 2 years no checks are being cut does seem intentionally deceptive and probably fraud.

  If anyone else is selling advertising, please share cuz it seems like fraud to me.

• Considering HUMAN Healthy Vending franchise and would like to hear from actual Operators. Machines look top notch. How good are they really. What kind of vends per day are truly realistic? If you are a current HUMAN Operator, please share some facts (confidentially if necessary)?

• 1. Machines are WAY overpriced. Given the avg vend/day and other costs (including commissions paid, maintenance of the machines), it will take YEARS of working your tail off to simply make up the cost that was paid to HUMAN up front. With the same investment, u could make a lot more $$$ doing something else.

  2. Advendtising=complete joke. Zero national accounts, zero $. They really should not include it in their materials at this point. Esp when the cost of buying the equipment to run the ads is so expensive.

  3. Another trick is pigeonholing distributors/vendors into tiny little geographic districts, where it's next to impossible to find 5 top locations, let alone 10, that actually would justify the huge upfront cost of a HUMAN machine. Sticking people into tiny little areas may allow HUMAN to sell more machines, but it virtually guarantees that the individual franchisee will fail.

  Approach w major caution!

• I too am considering HUMAN, but would like some input from some more actual Operators in a smaller market. Also does anyone know anything about this website? It appears that they have a vendetta against HUMAN that is more than informing potential fanchisees. What is behind that?

• also considering:

  Thank you for your comment. This site does not have a vendetta against HUMAN Healthy Vending. We are, however, skeptics and relentless about getting to the truth which, ultimately, must come from the franchisees and operators who know what happens once you sign the contract and your check clears. Before you sign up for any franchise or bizopp, be sure you speak with many operators, get lots of verifiable info from them and ask hard questions. Be sure to take off the rose colored glasses, and resist the temptation to hear what you want to hear.

  If we seem negative, it is because the rest of the Internet is filled with fluff and candy floss, press releases and blogs designed to block out any hint that anything could go wrong. This goes not only for HUMAN, but other healthy vending opportunities and franchising in general. We're a tiny little blog trying to offset a mountain range of hype.

  We often put out a challenge or list complaints then judge a company by their CEO's response. Those who lawyer up, hire an SEO firm to bury negative posts, tell their franchisees not to participate, or try to ignore away important issues raise the red flag signalling that more probing is warranted. We then probe harder, post more, and solicit input from both sides so that people like you can make more informed decisions about your investments and your family's future.

  We set an open letter with our concerns to Chief Humanist Sean Kelly. We were disappointed that his response was, in our opinion, misleading and ingenuous, and ducked the important issues. We sent him a response giving him an opportunity to be honest and transparent and did not hear back.

  We invite HUMAN Healthy Vending, its operators, employees, vendors, customers, and franchisees to share their experiences and opinions - positive or negative - about HUMAN Healthy Vending. In the end, it's not what we think that counts, but what franchisees andfuture franchisees think... once they know both sides of the story.

  Thanks for sharing - ADMIN

• Attn: Jerk off owner of this pathetic website.

  Interesting that your website is called unhappy franchisee however you don't have any unhappy franchisees complaints (that are not true) rather personal "bashings", disparagement and defamation without cause. Re healthy vending companies. This is a great concept and one that is much needed in our school systems. Why not attack some junk food franchisors for their blatant abuse of social responsibility.
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  We will publish some upcoming events on this piece of shit website as soon as they eventuate.
  People will research success vs failure, not what somebody is "accused" of being personally. I'd like the website owner to publish the names of the customers and their phone numbers instead of making accusations. Why not publish his own name and whereabouts...no chance! Coward sitting behind a screen.
  HUMAN healthy vending is not a scam.

• "Lucy" also wrote "The owner of this website “UnHappy Franchisee” is an ex franchisor and franchisee. He is also a drunk. I have done my research. Failed in both and now holds a grudge against and successful franchisors. He has some problems heading his way as he is pissing off the wrong people now."

  The owner of this website has not been a franchisor, has not been a franchisee, and has no problem with successful franchisors who achieve success by following franchise laws and regulations in recruitment, and who do what they say they'll do.

  Me, a drunk? I admit only to being intoxicated by your eloquent and sophisticated prose. :)

  "I’d like the website owner to publish the names of the customers and their phone numbers instead of making accusations."

  Not gonna happen. We suggest commenters use a fake name when posting, like you did, Lucy. Those who email us at UnhappyFranchisee[at]gmail.com are treated with the strictest confidentiality. If HUMAN would like to know which operators are unhappy, they should pick up the phone and start calling. Or call AVT and ask which operators machines are malfunctioning most often.

  Thanks for your comment, Lucy. I'm sure HUMAN Healthy Vending appreciates your passionate support.