JAN-PRO Franchise Complaints

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• Felix:

  Great points & great advice. I hope anyone considering this scam-chise will read it carefully.

  Jerry:

  I have no clue what you are blathering on about, as usual, and care even less. Your moronic ramblings are like Public Service Announcements against inbreeding. I hope your brother-cousins and auntie-moms down in Dixie and in Cornhole, Indiana will heed the warning and stop fishing the shallow end of the gene pool. Remember: 2nd cousins, minimum.

• Felix: You obviously don't bother reading any previous postings, so let me "catch you up".

  1. If you can read English, you can read and understand an FDD. If you can't understand it, IT's REAL SIMPLE: DONT BUY!!!!!

  2. I don't know where your from, nor do I care, If you can't get an attorney to review a document for 100 to 150 dollars, then you might want to live somewhere else.

  3. The Insurance fallicy that was reported by 1st amendment was not only shot down by me, it was verified and shot down by others that are either current or former Jan-Pro owner/operators.

  And if your attorney advised you NOT to BUY!!! Then why did you go to him in the first place and waste your money if you BOUGHT!!!! My largest problem with 1st amendment and now you is as follows: YOU act like you weren't given a CHOICE! You were, you are now admitting that you were told by reasonable counsel not to BUY but you DID! Because you didn't READ, didn't UNDERSTAND, didn't take ADVICE and because YOU didn't PERFORM, that somehow is Jan-Pro's Fault.

  Guess that's the world we live in today, that's why the school system continues to "pass" students who can't read, write, spell and how SEIU got through school as he was indoctrinated with the Progressive mindset of BLAME others when you FAIL, it's got to be somebody's fault, can't be your own.

• SEIU: What as arrogant, as intellectually superior individual that YOU claim to be, the learned and college educated person that you are can't understand the following; WHAT'S NEXT!!!!

  Just goes to show, you haven't got a clue. Since you don't have a clue, it's obvious you have no commercial cleaning experience, your "franchising" experience is based upon articles in FRANCHISE TIMES (when they agree with you). You obviously haven't run your own business and you obviously don't live in the world that the people posting on this site and reading this site does.

  WHAT'S NEXT refers to what happens to the thirty thousand owner/operators currently in the system. What happens to their investment, how is it they are able to clean facilities throughout the United States on a nightly basis without issue, how is it they continue to work everyday for their vision of the AMERICAN DREAM ( no SEIU I don't mean their South American Dream, their Central American Dream, their Canadian-American Dream) What about THEM!!!!!

  Your an idiot, 1st amendment is selfish, former jan-pro operations manager is vengeful. WHAT ABOUT THEM!!!! Has been from Day One and until now MY Question and MY reason for commenting on this SITE!!!!!

  Answer the Question: Anyone, WHAT'S NEXT!!!!

• Jerry writes "that’s why the school system continues to “pass” students who can’t read, write, spell"

  Yes, illiteracy is rampant. Some people write Ronald "Regan," "Dill-usional" "humerous" and continue to display the fact they wasted the taxpayer's money and squandered the public school education this great country provides!

  Jerry writes " If you can’t get an attorney to review a document for 100 to 150 dollars, then you might want to live somewhere else"

  Stop embarrassing yourself with moronic advice and "dillusional" statements. $100 will buy 20 minutes with any lawyer outside of Cornhole, Indiana. You think that's enough time to properly review that fat, onerous legal document, explain it to the client, and then give proper guidance?

  Oh, that's right. You don't want them to get proper guidance. That cramps the style of illiterate swindlers.

• SEIU: Sorry, didn't mean to insult your obvious lack of knowledge about our industry, franchising as a whole etc... without mentioning the fact you have no common sense either. My bad......

  If you don't care about these people, then just say so. For being honest is much easier than continuing to hide in the shadows. Look even 1st amendment in his own "monkey dung throwing way" admitted he doesnt' care about them.

  You can "jump on the band wagon" that's always the easy way of doing things. But to be "fair and real" you need to point out that their are others that are "in the game" too... You, 1st amendment, former jan-pro operations manager, don't/haven't thought about THEM. In regards to Felix, not even sure why he's SO ANGRY.... He has even admitted that he has made his original investment back multiple times over, still in the system, still making money, yet he's BITTER.

  Here's a NEWSFLASH that TELEMUNDO and their "cracker jack" Investigative reporter would be Proud Of: Business is Hard!!!! Businesses close on a regular basis, EVEN THOSE NOT PART OF THE FRANCHISE INDUSTRY!!! If you lack the skills, lack the desire, don't want to put forth the effort day in and day out, if you don't want to listen, don't want to train, don't want to LIVE in this world 24/7 then continue to be an EMPLOYEEE!!!!!! There's nothing wrong with that.

  1st amendment will LOSE his case, without a doubt, the Franchisors are finally realizing that "settling" does them no good, SEIU and his "merry band of attorneys" will continue to drive off the cliff, because at the end of the day, other than the Union Dues paying members of SEIU, they haven't lost a dime. Liz and her group and all the other "hangers on" have all been paid, continue to be paid up until they LOSE. Then what happens to 1st amendment and the others, they get stuck with a JUDGEMENT against them. Liz and her TEAM don't pay the JUDGEMENT, 1st amendment, "aiwah" and the others do.....

  So now, we're back to square one. No Reform, No Change, People out of Money, People out of Time and nothing has changed.....

• Here's a money-saving, time-saving tip for anyone considering signing a Jan-Pro franchise agreement: Call one of the attorneys who is suing or has sued Jan-Pro or other janitorial franchisors. They are already know the agreement backwards and forwards, and know all the hidden franchisor tricks and the worst provisions. You'll only have to pay them to glance over your version of the FDD, and they can spend their time explaining to you what you're risking by signing.

  Even at $350 an hour it will be much cheaper than coming back to them after being swindled and violated by a contract no Cornhole, Indiana lawyer would even understand.

• SEIU: Still didn't answer "WHATS NEXT" Every post I see you make and you don't respond, I'm going to start off. This will illustrate how you don't care, don't give a damn and how unimportant answering that question is to YOU!!!

  In regards to your 20 minutes, REALLY even in INDY the going rate is 150.00 per hour. You don't really think that the attorney's ever read each word do you? You can't be that big of an IDIOT!!! In your defense, even if they only spend 20 minutes, what would be their statement?

  I don't care if they buy a Jan-Pro franchise or not, never recommended that they do, YOU keep wanting to say that I have recommended to people to PURCHASE a Jan-Pro UNIT FRANCHISE. WHERE HAVE I EVER SAID THAT. God knows there's enough proof if you want to look for it.

• SEIU: Here we go again, WHATS NEXT!!!!! Why can't you answer the question or at least be honest and state for the record "YOU DONT CARE". That of course would require you to actually be honest.

  I know I'm not going to "change your mind". REALLY, at the end of the day, I don't need too or care too. I'm trying to get you and the others posting and viewing this site that the thirty thousand owner/operators performing their duties, taking care of customers throughout the United States on a NIGHTLY basis are far more important at the end of the day than YOU, !st amendment, Former Jan-Pro Operations Manager or anyone else that wants to BLAME others for Losing their business.

  Those viewing that are current owner/operators, you need to call FOR CHANGE!!! You have all the POWER!!! YOU always have had. YOU need to write the letters to WEBSTER, YOU need to write the letters to JAN-PRO INTERNATIONAL, YOU need to be the one's filing the BREACH OF CONTRACT SUITS!!!! YOU are the one's with LEGAL STANDING!!!!! If you want CHANGE, then YOU better be the one's asking for it!!!!

  EVERYONE else is out for VENGENCE. They don't care about your investment, they don't care about YOUR children, they don't care about what HARM they do to YOU as long as THEY get THEIR MONEY!!!!!!

• the Big 3 Janitorial franchise companies use top franchise law firms who bill $400-$500 an hour. Jerry advises using a Cornhole, Indiana $150 an hour lawyer with no specialized franchise experience to decipher their complex agreements. Great thinking.

  The BEST is Jerry's advice to "not have them read every word"! That's classic!Yes, please tell your attorney you only will pay to have them read the "important" words and see how they react!

  Don't read every word... ! Jerry you're a tool, but a big dumb loveable tool. By the way, what IS your education level? Did you finish George Wallace Elementary School or were you home-schooled in the woodshed by Uncle-Dad?

• SEIU: Here you go again, JUST answer one simple question wihout throwing insults and attempting to deflect: WHATS NEXT!!!!!