Janitorial / Commercial Cleaning Franchise Issues

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• stratus building solutions operations managers try to set franchisee in trouble in front of customers so they can make you lose the account and sell the account several times to other franchisee creating more money for them.
  we just found that in georgia so we are expecting to act before them, in order to avoid to lose all our savings.

• I worked with Stratus, the thing to know is that the clients are never really yours. They always belong to Stratus. You are only renting the client. Stratus has customers on a 1 year, auto renewal contract. So if the customer is not happy, the easy solution is to tell them you will change the cleaner. You are out and the next person comes in and Stratus gets to make money. The Master Franchisor in my market never cared if a franchisee wanted to quit, he would just say, "I would like you to stay, but if you want to leave it is your decision." He knew he could make money by re-selling their accounts.

• @Viewers: I decided to post comments on this thread, because they only have a little to do with Stratus, in fact, the only thing they have to do with Stratus is the fact the "Poodles" are threatening court action against me for defamation, slander and libel. I don't know, I'm just a simple person, with a simple thought, "Doesn't it have to be untrue in order for it to be one of those" and my next thought, "Doesn't this have to be a private person, someone out of the public forum, I don't know, I think that Pete/DJ/Marissa/David/Marvin/Bob/Bill/Carmen have been on tv enough, linkedin enough, posted comments enough, posted articles enough, be on facebook, twitter and other internet media enough to qualify as semi-public at worst".

  Now for the reason of my real posting, I am part of an industry wide group (commercial cleaning, not franchisng) and this past week, the topic of discussion just so happened to be "commercial cleaning franchising, will it survive?".

  I listened to some very respected industry vets give their valued opinions for at least 30 to 45 minutes, finally, I decided that since I happen to be the only one of this group currently in this sitting, I really needed to speak for a moment. My opening statement was, "You are phrasing the question wrong, it should be WILL IT SURVIVE, but SHOULD IT SURVIVE".

  When you understand the commercial cleaning industry, when you do the research, when you research the individuals whether it be by osmosis or books or written articles etc, you have an understanding of how this aspect of the industry came about....What was the reasoning behind it and how it got from 1959 till now.

  It was groundbreaking, but it wasn't Jim Cavanaugh that actually came up with the "vested interest" aspect of the commercial cleaning industry. He is credit of course with the development of the "unit franchise concept" which is simply an extension, though devious, still an extension of the licensing agreements first generated using the ServiceMaster concept of Master Territories and license agreements for On-location, C/S, Winc etc...

  I cannot honestly state that Jim Cavanaugh was actually devious at heart, at the beginning, but he quickly learned that the money was too great, the "churning aspect" must happen in order for Masters to really get a reasonable return on their investment and the facts that at the end of the day, unit franchises were expendable.

  So now, let's move forward, we had the following evolutions in our industry.

  a) In-House Employee's always peformed the cleaning
  b) Contract Services Began with Mom and Pops
  c) ServiceMaster was the first one with a "vested interest" concept
  d) Jim Cavanaugh, Jacque Lapointe were the first with "unit franchise" concept
  e) Building One was the first real "Co-op" Structure in our Industry
  f) Strategic Partnerships join large State, Regional Contractors for purposes of Regional and National Contract Opportunities.

  What's next, what will make Unit Franchising Obsolete? I have gotten a recent "itch" that I think I need to scratch. I've gotten real tired of working FOR someone else and I've gotten real tired of the non-sense associated with companies like Stratus, Jani-King, Jan-Pro, Coverall and others. All those companies have done, in some form or fashion is slap fresh and/or different color lipstick on the same old pig....Doesn't change it from being a PIG, just a little prettier. I have been in this industry for too long and seen it go through too many changes, I've seen too many people get hurt by these franchisng companies both on a Master Level and Unit Franchise Level to simply stand by and do nothing.

  It isn't that I am "god's gift" to the commercial cleaning industry by far, but I am smart enough, have enough ambition, have plenty of connections and with Linkedin just getting to/past the start up point in its evolution, I think I can get enough industry savy veterans, combined with enough "young blood", combined with enough personal and investment money, to have an operation of at least 100 million dollars per year within three (3) years of launch.

  All the lawsuits made on behalf of unit franchises has only taken us so far.
  All the lawsuits/splits made on behalf of current/former masters can't take us to the end.
  A new brand, a new thought process, a new/improved system is what is needed to put an end to the unit franchise concept as we currently know it.

  Stay tuned, more updates sooner vs. later.

• Dose anyone know the status of the class action lawsuit againts JanPro?

• Speaking from experience they are only concerned with one thing...making money from their franchisees. Many of the people that came into the offices barely spoke English and had no idea what they were signing up for. The so called "guaranteed contracts" they sell their owners are so low ball that the franchise owner will not make any money. They bid jobs at a rate that always wins the business because Coverall has no overhead for the service contract...they are only worried about getting enough contracts in the door to fulfill their obligation of the franchise packages they sell. And for the pleasure of working for free, going into dept, and being ripped off, the franchise owner pays Coverall up front to the average tune of $20,000 and 10% of all the invoices.

  Do not be fooled by this company, it is a rip off.

• Stratus Building Solutions is being sued for violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO).

  STRATUS BUILDING SOLUTIONS Sued by Franchisees for RICO Violations

  Look for more of these janitorial / commercial cleaning schemes to be brought up on RICO charges.

• Racketeering allegations against Stratus are explained in the complaint petition.

  I have posted the actual complaint petition against Stratus Building Solutions, its Master franchisees and executives here:

  STRATUS BUILDING SOLUTIONS Racketeering (RICO) Complaint Document

  The post itself contains an overview and list of the 134 or so named Defendants.

  Comments invited.

• I noticed that the last comment was already 3 months ago. Does anyone know the latest status on Stratus Building Solutions' lawsuit?

• I feel like those who participate in cleaning professions like cleaning offices and such are not as appreciated as they deserve to be. But i have heard of all these law suits, i wonder how its all going.

• I bought a contract and I say Con tract from vanguard cleaning in Cincinnati ohio….

  warning this company is in ethical and totally incompetent.

  From the start there all smiles but after they get your money they turn into pillow talkers with other franchiser.one certain indivual uses his power within the company to try and sleep with desperate women franchise owners in order to get contracts.

  i received my first contract only to find out from another franchise owner that after 2 days if cleaning it that it was gonna be takin away from me in a matter of days in which it was.i never received any help from vanguard in any type of way.

  they treat you like there your boss and the grossly under bid the contracts.

  dont buy a franchise with vanguard cleaning based out of Cincinnati ohio.