CUPPY’S COFFEE: Lawsuits Mounting Against Medina, Elite

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• Latest Update.... The sky has fallen on Dale Nabor's Dream Team in AL. Dale has finally gotten up enough nerve to meet with the employees that followed him up to Muscle Shoals, AL and told them he can NOT get the money to pay them. But he wanted to know who would continue to work for him for FREE. Has he lost his mind totally? He also told them if they would not stay and work free he did not want them to blog him. WTF????!!!!! He's an arrogant sh it!! So... now there are NO employees at Cuppy's/Elite/Medina! Dale is still trying to sell Elite contracts to Brian Hayes. But remember franchisees... Brian Hayes/SBT or whatever name they go by these days is overcharging you for buildout and equipment. Your best bet is to take whatever loss you have now and sue Morg/Dale/Medina/Fransynergy and try to recoup your deposit moneys. Cuppy's is dead! Even if a franchisee let SBT continue to build them out, I would NOT call it Cuppy's. Cuppy's has an awful name and I don't evenn think God himself can raise that dead franchise. Franchisee please listen up... you need to join together to get justice. There are more people out here willing to help you get that justice than you may think. Good luck to you zees and to the employees that followed Dale to AL and had work for 2 months without pay. I wish you all well.

• Okay now that Dale's evil empire is starting to crack we all need to take the next step.If you have an SBA loan through Comerica bank,Commerce bank ,Yes bank or PNC bank Dale's next scheme is to have Supreme Building Inc[led by the former president of Elite] overcharge you for the buildout so that Dale can put some of the disbursement money in his bank account.These banks are also being investigated for possible fraud charges since they disbursed our money and the banks did not follow SBA guidelines for disbursement.Supreme Buildings will overcharge you as much as 50% more than we can get the project done with our own contractor.The equipment is also marked up by 50% if you go through Supreme Buildings Inc.I for one will not get scammed by Dale Nabors or Brian Hayes again.We all need to report these banks to the SBA and if the banks did not follow the correct procedures for disbursement then we should not be held liable for the loan.This will work if you are trying to get out of the SBA loan that you got for your project.Comerica,Commerce,Yes and PNC bank are all at fault here so contact them immediately and let them know about Dale's/Brian Hayes/Supreme Buildings Inc scheme and also let them know that you want an audit performed on your loan disbursement.I have already done this and there is a possibility that I can get out of this loan.Let's finish the job and take down Dale.

• I agree with screwed franchisee-this is not about Cuppy,s anymore-it is about bringing Dale down.This is what he deserves.Everyone needs to contact their banks and the SBA.I don't think Dale paid my subcontractor which is one of the requirements for disbursements.I think we now have an avenue.If your subcontractor did not get paid then contact the bank and SBA and let them know.Once we bring Dale down we can concentrate on Brian Hayes .I have a plan.

• Guest & screwed franchisees.... you keep talking about Dale Nabor and yes he deserves to face criminal charges but don't forget Robert "Morg" Morgan. Most of those bank disbursments happened under Morg's watch. Morg was the main person pushing the banks to disburse before they were suppose to. They both need and hopefully will face criminal & fraud charges.

• Guest & screwed franchisees….

  It appears you are the same person posting a fake conversation with yourself.
  You are not a screwed franchisee but an ex-employee with an agenda.
  You have been outed.
  Others who do the same run the same risk of being exposed.

  Pick one screen name and use it.

• Quick question…how(if at all) does this affect those of us that were originally bamboozled with greatly underestimated build-out numbers, time lines, and operating costs, and DID open our stores and ended up with mountains of debt that were not foreseen because of the misleading from the beginning?

  If there is indeed fraud to be proven, then is there a recourse for the current SBA loans that are out there?

  Anyone that is “legally” pursuing action please let me know. I would be interested in speaking to you privately.

• Admin - You are correct! I could even tell you who the ex-employee is but, for now I'll remain silent on HIS identity because, it will come out SOON ENOUGH!

  I can tell you that HE is an ex-employee who in an effort to make himself 'look good' in the performance of his job, he did certain things which should not have been done. Both Morg and Dale should have paid more attention to his actions, so the liability may rest with them --- but some may pass directly to him. He knows this, and is now trying to come out and be a hero on some fronts, while deflecting the HEAT from himself on various blogs and email chains.

  AGAIN - Admin seems to be taking a very fair position, and calling the shots as he sees them.

• Amy....er... I mean JavaGal wrote "Both Morg and Dale should have paid more attention to his actions, so the liability may rest with them..."

  It has been mentioned here ad nauseam, that Dale and Morg completely held the reins. Nothing was done, and no information was given out except by them. Nobody else held any power here. So please stop trying to re-direct blame on others. The flame needs to be held on these two, and yourself (being the right-hand person, and most likely privy to their intentions).

  Admin..I would be skeptical regarding all this praise she is hoisting upon you. There must be some motive here that I am not aware of. you are not thinking about becoming the next owner of Cuppy's, are you?

• I feel like McCain when the lady in the crowd called Obama an "A-rab" and he had to wrestle the microphone back and defend Obama.

  guest wrote: I agree with screwed franchisee-this is not about Cuppy,s anymore-it is about bringing Dale down.

  guest/screwedfranchisees... you are obviously on the wrong blog. This is about the franchisees and depositers - you know, those people whose savings paid your salary back when you were a Cuppy's cheerleader - not about bringing anyone down. If you had the choice between getting Rick & Krista their money back or seeing Dale in jail, it's pretty clear which you'd pick.

  I would be skeptical regarding all this praise she is hoisting upon you.
  You can't give me even 5 minutes to enjoy my scant praise, can you.

  you are not thinking about becoming the next owner of Cuppy’s, are you?
  OMG that made me spew my rotgut whiskey all over my dark room!

• ADMIN... you wrote on October 18th, 2008 12:27 pm "Guest & screwed franchisees…. It appears you are the same person posting a fake conversation with yourself. You are not a screwed franchisee but an ex-employee with an agenda"
  Well you are wrong in regards to me being the same person in these previous post. I am a guest and not screwed franchisee. I was replying to a "guest's" remarks and to "screwed franchisee" remarks. You are correct in regards to I'm an ex-employee. Who is trying to keep the franchisees informed as to what is going on in Morg & Dale Nabor's little world. The ship is not sinking it has SUNK and nobody wants to believe it!! The franchisees need to stop complaining (even though they have the right) and do something before Dale/Morg liquidate whatever assets are left & hide forever. Morg still hasn't been found so officials can serve him papers. He's doing the same thing he did when Slender Lady franchisees were trying to sue him. He hid until they got tired of looking for him and tired of waiting & dropped the case on him because they couldn't find him. If you don't think that's what Morg and Dale are think of right this very second, you all are fools.